Other Tweeking Cheap Kits

Discussion in 'Kit Winemaking' started by joeswine, Dec 11, 2015.

Wine Making Forum

Help Support Winemaking Talk by donating:

  1. Dec 19, 2019 #1961

    Lwrightjs

    Lwrightjs

    Lwrightjs

    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2019
    Messages:
    126
    Likes Received:
    27
    Gender:
    Male
    Regarding the above wine. It's not awful, it's just like.. Tart and sour? It's hard to describe. Is that how a young wine tastes?
     
  2. Dec 19, 2019 #1962

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,679
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    what is your PH reading?
    between the blackberries and the oak and tannins it can be a sour.
     
  3. Dec 19, 2019 #1963

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,679
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    did you sauté the berries down with the base wine? it sounds like balance is what you lack.
     
  4. Dec 20, 2019 #1964

    Lwrightjs

    Lwrightjs

    Lwrightjs

    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2019
    Messages:
    126
    Likes Received:
    27
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes to both of these.
    Maybe it just needs more time!
     
  5. Dec 20, 2019 #1965

    Jim612

    Jim612

    Jim612

    Junior

    Joined:
    May 2, 2019
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks for your help
     
  6. Dec 21, 2019 #1966

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,679
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    Patience and time are the greatest tools in a winemakers tool box.
    Making wine is a simple process no matter what route you take and all winemakers tweak in one fashion or another.
    These cheaper kits do make a good every day wine,that's all their meant to do in the end have fun.
     
  7. Dec 21, 2019 #1967

    Jim612

    Jim612

    Jim612

    Junior

    Joined:
    May 2, 2019
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joe. I started the Mizza Luna today
    Making it to 5 gallons the initial SG WAS 1.100. I add syrup to 1.120 plus the oak chips provided with the kit and 24ozs. Of sautéed blackberries. Put in the yeast provided 1118 and put on the heat belt. Will it hurt to stir in the mixture daily or do I leave it alone. Thanks again. Jim
     
  8. Dec 21, 2019 #1968

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,679
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    Your ABV. Will be al in a little higher than that , it should settle down.
    Process sounds good . Let the yeast do it's thing .
    What are you fermenting in?
     
  9. Dec 22, 2019 #1969

    Jim612

    Jim612

    Jim612

    Junior

    Joined:
    May 2, 2019
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Like you in a pale with heating ban covered with a towel to keep critters out
     
  10. Dec 22, 2019 #1970

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,679
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    Outstanding,, grasshopper.
     
  11. Jan 1, 2020 #1971

    RocketBee

    RocketBee

    RocketBee

    Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2019
    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    11
    Gender:
    Male
    I ordered the Fontana Chardonnay kit today ($40 including shipping in US on Amazon, 11 left). I will tweak by reducing the volume to 5 gallons, adding medium toast French oak in the primary and a tablespoon of grapefruit zest in the primary. I'm also thinking about adding an Fpac as well...peach, maybe pineapple, I see @joeswine has used Thompson Seedless grapes. I read almost the whole thread and there is a consistent theme of "less is more" with these white kits, so not too sure. @joeswine would love to have your thoughts and anyone else as well.
     
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2020
  12. Jan 1, 2020 #1972

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,679
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    Yes less is more, so far the plan is good, however check your ABV. And maker sure it's at the level you want for your wine.make it to the process you edited, use half a grapefruit and 5.5 gallons. The next kit you can move forward on.
    Peaches or apricots would work.and lite on the oak.
     
  13. Jan 2, 2020 #1973

    RocketBee

    RocketBee

    RocketBee

    Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2019
    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    11
    Gender:
    Male
    Thanks very much!
     
  14. Jan 2, 2020 #1974

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,679
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    Thompson seedless grapes make a great fpac for all white wines they add structure and body without distorting the original wines intent.
    Just an☺️other tool in your tool box.
     
  15. Jan 2, 2020 #1975

    RocketBee

    RocketBee

    RocketBee

    Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2019
    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    11
    Gender:
    Male
    @joeswine which fpac would be your favorite/go-to for the Fontana Chardonnay? Apricots, peaches or Thompson seedless? My guess is that you would answer based upon what you want to be the outcome. Do you just want to add structure and body and stay close to the original intent or do you want to add additional flavors?
     
  16. Jan 2, 2020 #1976

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,679
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    For me chardenay made with a small amount of tannins in the secondary and either fruit in the primary would work best for me.
    Control the ABV to12%and all's well.this would be a well received wine in short order. Service cold and clean.
     
  17. Jan 3, 2020 #1977

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,679
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    this is a new year so lets start off with something different and tasty.. I purchased these kits 50% off so its time to play with them.
    PIESPORTER is the first ,, I changed out the yeast then added an APPLE FPAC... follow the flow and you'll see the changes ,should turn out clean and crisp.
     

    Attached Files:

  18. Jan 4, 2020 #1978

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,679
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    how do you feel about the oak and what was your ABV. at the start ? other that that it sounds good. .\
    who posted me about the pomegranate fpac, it got lost somewhere in the mix???
     

    Attached Files:

  19. Jan 4, 2020 #1979

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    joeswine

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,679
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    PIESPORTER following day .....fermentation underway..
     

    Attached Files:

  20. Jan 5, 2020 #1980

    Darrell Hawley

    Darrell Hawley

    Darrell Hawley

    Junior

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2019
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    I had what types of fpac you put into your pomegranate as I was just getting ready to start one and would like to experiment with one. Thanks
     

Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page

Group Builder