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I was thinking about experimenting with displacing wine with some marbles instead of topping up in my carboys.

Unfortunately I lost my marbles long ago, so I need to buy new ones. :)

What I'm trying to figure out now is how many marbles need to buy. Does anyone know how many marbles it would take to displace... let's say... 1 gallon of liquid.

Has anyone here done this? If so, how many marbles have did you need to pull it off?
 

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Don't know how many, but it has been suggested that as opposed to just dropping them in individually, you could insert a sterilized nylon stocking into the carboy and put them into that.
 

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Your gonna need a heck of a lot to displace a gallon of liquid and yes put them in a mesh/nylon bag. Be sure to sanitize all.
 

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Thats a pretty small neck to be putting a sack of marbles into or to take out. I am just trying to visualize how you would do that.
 

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I drop the marbles in 1 or 2 at a time, no sock or bag. I keep them in a plastic container that I fill with sulfite solution before using. I have not counted them but a lot is good guess. I bought 3 bags of them at a dollar store a year ago and they do come in handy. I've never had to displace a gal. in one carboy. For a gal. you may want to use a similar wine or a smaller container. Why so much?
 

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Insert the "toe" in the neck add the marbles to the level needed and tie it off. A gallon is alot to displace. Just be careful not to drop any of the marbles, doesn't seem like you can afford to lose any more marbles.
 

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toooo many marbles in order to displace a gallon...why not just get smaller carboys....do you really want to clean all those marbles?

secondly...if you did wishto determine what you need, simply get a measure cup fill w set amount of water...displace w marbles....then either count the marbles ( have fun) of weigh the marbles needed
 

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That would be a lot of marbles, A few more bucks and you can just buy anothetr carboy and those come in handy more then the marbles do! Once you have a few different size carboys and a few batches of wine in stock you can just use what you have to top up.
 

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OK... I don't actually have to displace 1 gallon of wine at the moment. I was just using that as an arbitrary number to get a feel. If it took, say, roughly 1280 marbles to displace 1 gallon, I'd know that I needed to have 10 marbles to displace 1 ounce. If I had a marble and a graduated cylinder on hand, I'd find out how much one marble displaces. I've tried looking it up online, but all I could find was exercises to do just that, but none of the answers. LOL

I use better bottles, so I figure I can just drop them in without any concern of cracking the carboy. As far as using other wine, I'm hoping not to have to re-open bottles I've already packaged just to top up my carboy. I'm figuring that I'd be more likely to dump in a handful of marbles than crack open a bottle of wine.

As far as smaller containers are concerned, I either make kits or 6 gallon batches of homemade recipes. I really don't want to lose wine by jamming my batch into a 5 gallon carboy, nor do I want a bunch of tiny containers for one batch. Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of bulk aging anyway?
 

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I bought 3 bags of them at a dollar store a year ago and they do come in handy.
How many marbles were in each bag? That would probably be a good enough answer for me. I'm just trying to figure out how many to buy. I seem to find better deals on bulk amounts, but I don't want to buy 1000 of them if I only need 50. LOL
 

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I didn't count them. I probably have about 150 or 200. They actually are easy to clean. I just rinse them, sulfite them and dump them in.
 

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Thanks, Richard. That's what I needed to know. I'll pick up a few hundred and go from there.

It looks like I worded the original question poorly. Sorry for the confusion everyone.
 

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