Ok so here is where I am at and I might be too early for sweeten up, I went to the beer and wine store in town and bought a loganberry fruit wine base and followed the directions, I stared on 10-11 initial S.G. 1.090, I second racked on 11-2 and then again on 11-19 the time on 11-19 I went from carboy to bucket and back to carboy I only have one of these but it doesent taste to well and my S.G. is 0.950 or worse I think my S.G. thing actually sinks so I dont know what I am doing wrong, I have a three gallon batch of concord grape going from fresh grapes I got that recipe from this site and things seem to be going good I think its a little strong at 1.020 Ive done the same things at the same time to both, havent done the potassium sorbate yet but then they are still both bubbleing a bit yet