Rack, degas

[Vlabruz]

I see people use the hand held brake bleeder for degas and I've seen it used for racking, id imagine thats slow.
Has anyone tried a pneumatic brake bleeder. I've used them being in the trade. Curious if there was anyone that applied it here. I didnt see it in the search

 

[sour_grapes]

I have never seen anyone use a hand-held brake bleeder for racking. Was this just to get a siphon started, or was this used differently?

The pneumatic brake bleeder you show seems to be a simple Venturi pump. That should work fine (but they are loud, as you probably know already).

 

[Vlabruz]

I have never seen anyone use a hand-held brake bleeder for racking. Was this just to get a siphon started, or was this used differently?

The pneumatic brake bleeder you show seems to be a simple Venturi pump. That should work fine (but they are loud, as you probably know already).

Exactly what it is. Its quieter than a vacuum pump im fairly certain. You would just hear hissing mostly.
I saw someone on YouTube rack 5 gallons with a hand pump. Probably a great forearm workout.

 

[sour_grapes]

Its quieter than a vacuum pump im fairly certain.

Not in my experience!

 

[Vlabruz]

Not in my experience!

I'd have to hear a pump. They seem so loud on videos

 

[Bill Pet]

I use hand brake bleeder for degassing. The Harbor Freight one is a piston pump so it only pumps a very small air volume per stroke. It works well if there is not too much head space in a carboy. I'm very sure it would not work as a transfer pump because the air volume would be WAY too large and therefore take too much time and effort.

 

[vacuumpumpman]

Not in my experience!

Exactly what it is. Its quieter than a vacuum pump im fairly certain. You would just hear hissing mostly.
I saw someone on YouTube rack 5 gallons with a hand pump. Probably a great forearm workout.

It is extremely noisy as Paul pointed out - It needs to be in order to cause the venturi effect. You will also need a GOOD size air compressor to handle the CFM.

 

[Vlabruz]

It is extremely noisy as Paul pointed out - It needs to be in order to cause the venturi effect. You will also need a GOOD size air compressor to handle the CFM.

I have the compressor. I dont remember it being so noisy but I always used it in a large tall ceiling shop

 

[Vlabruz]

Listen at 6:40 that doesn't sound any louder than a vacuum pump. At least in the video.

 

[sour_grapes]

Listen at 6:40 that doesn't sound any louder than a vacuum pump. At least in the video.

Perhaps you are correct. The venturi pumps that I have used have had an extremely loud hiss. But I suppose that this varies by capacity and construction of the pump.

 

[barryjo]

I have never seen anyone use a hand-held brake bleeder for racking. Was this just to get a siphon started, or was this used differently?

The pneumatic brake bleeder you show seems to be a simple Venturi pump. That should work fine (but they are loud, as you probably know already).

Have you not seen the Autosiphon? Single stroke pump. 2 sizes. One stroke and gravity takes over.

 

[sour_grapes]

Have you not seen the Autosiphon? Single stroke pump. 2 sizes. One stroke and gravity takes over.

Did you mean to quote me? I certainly use an autosiphon. It was the OP that was asking about using a brake bleeder for racking.

 

[Bill Pet]

Has anyone tried using a Faucet Aspirator Vacuum Pump. You simply attach it to a water faucet and it draws a fairly high volume hard vacuum. I used to use them in the chemistry lab. Worked great, no moving parts. All it needs some water pressure. I suspect it could be adapted to drive transfers. An example from Amazon: Nalgene 6140-0010 Faucet Aspirator Vacuum Pump, Polypropylene, 3/8" NPT Threading. There are more styles available, some which screw right onto/into a kitchen faucet.
Nalgene 6140-0010 Faucet Aspirator Vacuum Pump, Polypropylene, 3/8" NPT Threading: Science Lab Pumps: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

 

[barryjo]

Did you mean to quote me? I certainly use an autosiphon. It was the OP that was asking about using a brake bleeder for racking.

Apologies. I plead caffeine deficiency.

 

[Vlabruz]

Have you not seen the Autosiphon? Single stroke pump. 2 sizes. One stroke and gravity takes over.

Of course I have. I use one. I just like to tinker

 

[Vlabruz]

Has anyone tried using a Faucet Aspirator Vacuum Pump. You simply attach it to a water faucet and it draws a fairly high volume hard vacuum. I used to use them in the chemistry lab. Worked great, no moving parts. All it needs some water pressure. I suspect it could be adapted to drive transfers. An example from Amazon: Nalgene 6140-0010 Faucet Aspirator Vacuum Pump, Polypropylene, 3/8" NPT Threading. There are more styles available, some which screw right onto/into a kitchen faucet.
Nalgene 6140-0010 Faucet Aspirator Vacuum Pump, Polypropylene, 3/8" NPT Threading: Science Lab Pumps: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

Interesting and definitely a diy

 

[Rice_Guy]

I use a 12V DC pump as found on Amazon for racking / starting siphons. ,,, It is about as loud as a fish tank air pump and can pull -22 inches Hg. ,,,
Yes in college the water venturi was a standard, 12 volt goes anywhere though.

Has anyone tried using a Faucet Aspirator Vacuum Pump. You simply attach it to a water faucet and it draws a fairly high volume hard vacuum. I used to use them in the chemistry lab.

 

[ChuckD]

Has anyone tried using a Faucet Aspirator Vacuum Pump. You simply attach it to a water faucet and it draws a fairly high volume hard vacuum. I used to use them in the chemistry lab. Worked great, no moving parts. All it needs some water pressure. I suspect it could be adapted to drive transfers. An example from Amazon: Nalgene 6140-0010 Faucet Aspirator Vacuum Pump, Polypropylene, 3/8" NPT Threading. There are more styles available, some which screw right onto/into a kitchen faucet.
Nalgene 6140-0010 Faucet Aspirator Vacuum Pump, Polypropylene, 3/8" NPT Threading: Science Lab Pumps: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

The problem is they waste a lot of water.

 

[Sailor323]

I use a 120V transfer pump from Midwest Supplies. Can pump from a carboy on the floor to an elevated carboy. I no longer need gravity and do everything from primary fermentation to subsequent rackings on an elevated counter. The pump takes care of degassing.

 

[Vlabruz]

I use a 120V transfer pump from Midwest Supplies. Can pump from a carboy on the floor to an elevated carboy. I no longer need gravity and do everything from primary fermentation to subsequent rackings on an elevated counter. The pump takes care of degassing.

These work on pressure though correct?