i don't know if anybody watches the show, but this thread reminds me of a recent episode of the show "duck dynasty"....the ceo of the company went and bought a vineyard and winery....looked to me like it was during the summer, but i don't know enough about the climate down in i believe louisiana, but anyways, it was before grape season, so there were no grapes....the ceo's brother goes to the supermarket and buys a whole lot of cases of seedless table grapes and sugar, saying the only difference between wine and regular grapes is the amount of sugar....they also say they figure if a little sugar and yeast is good, than a lot has to be even better.....so they proceed to crush, and immediately press all these grapes, with them shooting out of the press all over the place....making a complete mess....they then take the juice, all in buckets mind you, even though i am sure they actually had all the pumps and such they needed, and poured it by hand into a stainless steel vat, with a number of bags of sugar and huge measuring cups of yeast....the ceo, upon buying the vineyard, booked an unveling of the wine for 3 weeks after the purchase....low and behold, somehow in 3 weeks, they had it bottled and had a big party to unveil it...from the reactions, i guess it was pretty god awful.....lol...i can only imagine....