Finally got this started tonight as when I bought it, it was missing the grape pack so I emailed Lisa at RJS and she mailed it to me and I received it yesterday and got her fired up tonight. Added a little extra heavy French toasted oak as I like the Oak Monster. So far I really love the higher end RJS products and the price I can get these kits locally.I really dont know how this little old lady can sell these at these prices and stay in business but I like it.