Tarasite, I have 2 of these kits sitting in my front hall along with 2 Island Mist Kits. Needless to say, the IM kits are dwarfed by these new kits. I'll probably get them started this weekend. Still trying to clear some work space in the wine room. I may do one of each kit at a time, as a side by side comparison to see how they compair, in making, and in aging and drinking........ or I'll do all four kits at once and then I'll have an exuse to buy another 3 gallon Carboy.