Grape Juice in Other Recipes?

[ClydeWigg3]

I keep seeing recipes for adding grape juice concentrate to recipes for various things like elderberry and blueberry. If you add 6 cans of grape juice concentrate to another fruit can you still call it Blueberry or Elderberry wine? As a newbie I don't understand the theory behind this. If the fruit itself won't make good wine without adding grape juice to it, why bother with the fruit to begin with? Why not just make wine from grapes and be done with it?

 

[ClydeWigg3]

One recipe on this same page calls for 15 pounds of elderberries and 6 11.5 oz, cans of grape concentrate. Sure seems like the grape juice would overpower the small amount of elderberry present.

 

[Julie]

You are misunderstanding, the grape juice is for a second run. After you make your wine, take the bag of berries and place that in another primary and water and grape juice. It is a second run wine, which will have a lighter berry taste with a slight grape taste.

 

[djrockinsteve]

With fruit wines you want to use only the juice of that fruit and only add other juice if you have to as opposed to water. You are correct it would defeat the purpose adding that much concentrate to elderberry.

Second run is a way of getting some extra wine (think of it as generic) from the fruit after the 1st wine. It won't have the same intenseness as the original. Think of it as just playing around and trying it.