Another new kit from WE - Whisky Barrel Cab/Merlot

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  1. May 29, 2019 #1

    George Burgin

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    The Okanagan Valley in British Columbia has a terroir that is affected by the deep Okanagan Lake and the surrounding mountains. The moderately cold but short winters and the hot summer temperatures allow for the production of an exceptionally well balanced Cabernet Sauvignon. Paso Robles, located on the Central Coast of California, enjoys a long growing season and a healthy harvest which is the perfect condition for growing high-quality Merlot! The blend of Cabernet and Merlot from these regions reign supreme.

    Limited Release Background:
    Last year, Winexpert brought us Eclipse Bourbon Barrel, the 4th in a series of annual Limited Release wine kits under the Eclipse brand. All four (Bourbon Barrel, Nocturnal, Forza, Super Tuscan) were a hit and became one of our best selling Limited Release wines ever. In fact, Bourbon Barrel and Forza are now regular Eclipse products due to its success!! The concept is to bring a special wine to the market that is not a permanent addition to the Eclipse lineup. Like the past 4 releases, we suspect Whisky Barrel will eventually be added to either the WinExpert's Selection or Eclipse product line as a permanent kit and will be around longer than traditional Limited Edition kits. Bourbon Barrel was our largest seller yet and we don't anticipate Whisky Barrel to disappoint!! Therefore, the Whisky Barrel will not be here forever.

    The Wine:
    A robust blend of California Merlot and full-bodied British Columbia Cabernet Sauvignon are the perfect partners in this delectably versatile blend. The ripe berry fruit flavors, the structured tannins, and the high acidity combine to create a wine that truly shines! The addition of peated and unpeated oak chips from genuine Whisky barrels adds nuances of vanilla, tobacco, and spice as inviting toasty notes on the nose lead to a long, smooth finish.

    Food Pairing:
    This wines versatility makes it a match for a variety of dishes! Keep it simple with pepperoni pizza or be creative and pair it with a rich, roasted leg of lamb with rosemary and garlic. This wine will practically go with just about anything. Or simply enjoy sipping on it solo over great conversation or other relaxing activities.

    Style: Bold Full Bodied Red
    Body: Full
    Oak: Whisky Barrel
    Sweetness: Dry
    Alcohol: 13.0%
    Labels Included: TBD

    Prior Limited Releases have been best selling Winexpert kits. This year's version, Whisky Barrel, is assured to impress our most discerning wine customers. Whisky Barrel will be a very solid addition to your wine cellars and you won't be able to keep enough on hand for friends and family!!
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  2. May 29, 2019 #2

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    I dunno, did the Bourbon Barrel last year, but now this feels like things are getting a little gimmicky. I like the blend though, so if I do this kit it may be with French oak instead of Whisky Barrel.
     
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    Soooo, will it or won't it be permanent? :?

    Seems like WE could do with a proofreader!
     
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    Since this is a Selection kit im guessing this is juice only and no skins.
     
  5. May 29, 2019 #5

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    At least a better copywriter. I think they are trying to say the old get it while you can it might or it might not be a permanent addition to the lineup, depends on demand.
     
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    I am new to winemaking (have done cider and beer), and I was looking at maybe getting this kit, as several of my favorite wines right now are the ones aged in whisky/bourbon/rum barrels (I'm not a high-end wine drinker--I'm happy with $8-12 bottles). I realize it's not top of the line, since it is juice only, but what are everyone's thoughts on its suitability for a beginner like myself? It's got to be better than the 10L kits, right? :)
     
  7. May 29, 2019 #7

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    I have been making some for several years and I would have no problem with buying this kit, even though it doesn't appear to have skins. Have no fear, it will be wonderful.
     
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    George Burgin

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    Laurie, by mostly following the instructions on this kit you'll have a great wine. Whisky barrel aged wine is the craze right now so this is in line with where the market is proposed to be heading. I do believe it will be better than a 10L kit. Skip the sorbate and add time to the schedule. For instance, if secondary asks for 14 days don't be afraid to double or even triple that time.
     
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    Thanks very much for the input. I'm going to go for it. :)
     
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    Was wondering where you got the information that Bourbon Barrel will be a permanent Eclipse release. As a tier 1 Winexpert vendor in BC, we have no more access to Bourbon Barrel.

    Was a fantastic wine, however, I was certainly not disappointed.
     
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    That whole bit text was taken from the Southern Homebrew pre-order page for the Whisky Barrel kit... (Not sure if I should add a link, but it isn't hard to find.)
     
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    So...I just got an email from LP, when I had preordered this kit back at at the end May, saying that Winexpert didn't make enough kits, they were sold out even before the pre-order deadline (apparently LP waited until the deadline to submit their entire order), and they (and 15 other retailers) are not getting any of the kits, at all. :po

    They gave 3 options for "resolution":

    1. Switch you over to the Selection Cabernet Merlot which is the same blend and same 16 L of Juice and add 45 grams of Whiskey Chips to replace the oak that comes with the kit. If this option is chosen, a refund of $16.65 will be issued since the Selection Cabernet Sauvignon Merlot is on sale at a cheaper price right now and since the Limited Edition Cabernet Merlot kit was a Minimum Advertised Price (MAP) kit.

    2. Upgrade to the Eclipse Limited Release Three Moons Cabernet Sauvignon Kit with Skins. This is an 18L kit with skins versus the 16L pre-ordered Whisky Barrel kit which does not have skins and costs $17 more but we will absorb this extra cost at no cost to you due to the inconvenience of having to switch choices.

    3. We can issue you a full refund for the kit that we can not get.

    #2 is tempting since it has more juice and skins, but I guess I am going with #1, because I prefer the blend over a straight Cab Sauv, but I am not happy about this. I was REALLY looking forward to this kit! Wondering where all the kits did go, if not to major online retailers like LP?!
     
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    You could always get the three moons AND add the whiskey barrel chips. Best of both worlds IMO.
     
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    I thought about that, but as I said, I prefer blends to straight cab. I have already bought a couple of whisky oak staves to add if I feel like adding extra oomph.
     
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    I think LP is doing the best they can with a bad situation; it’s WE that I’m upset with. WE should have paced their distribution and not shipped their entire stock prior to their order deadline! That way all distributors would have gotten some of their whiskey barrel product.
    I’m going with LP’s option 1; I think it will result in as good or maybe even a better wine than the WE Special. Too bad I won’t have the Special to compare!
    Hopefully LP will add a supplemental instruction sheet; otherwise there will be lots of folks asking questions, when to oak, how long, etc.
     
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    While I agree most of the blame lies with WE, LP could have sent the orders in batches rather than waiting until the deadline, but perhaps that is how it's usually done and they had no way of knowing WE would sell the kits before the deadline. Hindsight and all, you know.

    I did appreciate LP offering multiple options for resolution and told them that in my response. I am curious how many orders they got (how many people they are having to deal with on this issue)...
     
  17. Jul 17, 2019 at 6:27 PM #17

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    I just received my replacement kit (the Selection cab/merlot with the added packet of whisky barrel chips). They did include a note to add the whisky barrel chips in the primary and to NOT use the oak that came with the kit so as not to over oak it. I am hoping to get this one started this weekend, after bottling my IM peach/apricot chardonnay.
     

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