just got done crushing the grapes, i did 2 seperate small batch's, 3 lugs of old vine zin and a lug of pia house black mix in each tub, it smells good , brix reading 25, i never used pia brand before but there grapes were awsome very clean no lumber and not a dud in the lugs nice stuff, i also had to use lucerne old vine zin < never tried this brand, but i had no choose im very busy and had to get the wine making done, off to sleep im beat, 8 lugs destemmed and crushed by hand by myself..night night..