I will be testing how badly you can start a wine and still succeed. Or not. Went down to my wine room to sweep floor and found that my kit I bought a month or two ago to start this fall was leaking. Removed from box which was moldy and decided I better start it. Only problem was when I opened bag and started to pour it without the box, the bag collapsed and the juice ran down the outside of the bag and into the fermentor. Never done it that way before. I'm afraid it probably picked up some mold in the process. We will see. If this turns out it will be a miracle. As a side note, I was not impressed with the fragrance of this juice. Has anyone else made this kit that can comment on it. It's the cellar craft showcase Johanisberg Riesling.