We are going to hit another local vineyard for a wine tasting tomorrow. My wife likes this place cause they sell a lot of different flavored Grapeseed oils for dipping and the different cheeses they have. Aftr that we are going to a cider mill that we always go to every year and just checked ou there web site and noticed that you can drop off your carboy or oak barrel or get a new carboy or used oak barrel from them and get it filled with untreated cider for makin hard cider. I might have to come back here before they close in December and fill up. It says for a barrel filled and sealed it is $250. It doesnt say what size though!