when good wines gone bad

LoneStarLori · Nov 1, 2014

That pomegranate fpac looks great. My kit is in the clearing stages. I used frozen berry mix in my kit. I used a different kit, OB. Strawberry sensation. Wish I would have thought to add the sweet red wine. Great idea!

joeswine · Nov 1, 2014

island mist or tweaked kits

at this point the kit and fpac are in harmony with each other it was a good venture and will turn out great for the contest.

joeswine · Nov 4, 2014

pomegranate fpac

remember this kit is for the contest so I'm working at the same rate as the wine dictates.
notes: it will take a little time to rack do to the pomegranate seed clogging up the auto siphon, so may be it would have been a wiser to place them in a cheesecloth bag or some other kind of separator use your own ingenuity. This wasn't a real problem for me but it is something for you to consider. Also if you get some sludge in to the racking don't worry about it ,right after degassing we will do our first addition of superkleer -before we continue. Got that we are going to clear twice ,I'll explain why later the pomegranate seed meat has dissolved give up all it can to the wine what a aroma...

so far so good.........................were on time .....Dave........

TomK-B · Nov 9, 2014

Joe, wanted to give you a report on a wine I've made using one of your techniques. I started with the 12 liter RJ Spagnold's Australian Cabernet Sauvignon kit that comes with a small dried grape skin pack. First I substituted BM45 for the yeast. And I added my tannin powder in primary fermentation. Starting SG was 1.098. It also came with two "tea bag" type of oak that goes in the primary fermentation. I left it in primary for 7 days, then transferred to carboy with one pound of black currants. I let it sit in the black currants for 21 days and it finished fermenting to dry (SG: 0.996). Stablized and cleared. Today I racked off the fine lees and had a taste. OMG!!!! I'm shocked at how good this turned out! :try

Thanks so much for that suggestion! :br

barbiek · Nov 9, 2014

joe in your simple syrup. What recipe do you use? 1 to 1? Or is it 2 parts sugar to 1 part water?
thanks

Putterrr · Nov 10, 2014

I will jump in here. He uses 2 sugar to 1 water. If i find the post, i will add the link for ya

cheers

barbiek said:
joe in your simple syrup. What recipe do you use? 1 to 1? Or is it 2 parts sugar to 1 part water?
thanks

geek · Nov 10, 2014

Joe,

My wife loves pomegranate, so thinking about taking the plunge on this kit and make it for her.

Did you add your custom fpack with pomegranates at the same time you added the fpack that came with the kit when the wine was dry?
Or you added it right in primary and then used the fpack that came with the kit to back sweeten after it was dry?

It seems the cheapest for me shipped is about $68.29.

joeswine · Nov 10, 2014

zinfandel pomegranate wine

I MADE MY OWN FPAC AND INSTALLED IT IN THE PRIMARY,REMEMBER TO BRING THE SG UP ALSO,YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT I STARTED WITH,THEN ADD THE POMEGRANATES TO THE PRIMARY-WITH THE FPAC THAT WAS SUPPLIED I'M FIRST GOING TO SEE IF I EVEN NEED IT OR NOT,BUT THAT'S A WEEK DOWN THE ROAD,YES TAKE THE PLUNGE AND ENJOY THE RIDE ...............YOU CAN'T LOOSE ON THIS ONE GEEK,BY THE WAY YOUR ENTRÉE WAS VERY GOOD I'M PROUD OF YOU ,GRASSHOPPER.

geek · Nov 10, 2014

LOL, thanks Joe.... :db

I understand, I should boost up the SG by adding simple syrup to bring.
In your case, you're using a home-made fpack with pomegranate right in primary and then will decide whether to use the supplied fpack or not....got it.
In my case I'd add it since she wants a semi sweet pomegranate.

Lastly, I assume it came with fining agent, right? Where you got the kit from?

joeswine · Nov 10, 2014

zin/pom kit

I got my kit from a local wine /brew store you can get them anywhere on line or may be one of sponsors on this forum......it all depends on how the wine taste, and I won't know that until almost at the finish line then I can decide to either use some or all of the mfg. fpac.and by the way if you do this kit straight up it's sweet.....................

by using the home made fpac ,I have more pomegranate flavor then the mfgs. fpac will have .I have made this kit at least 8 times ,my wife and her lady friends love it in the summertime. :wy

joeswine · Nov 11, 2014

Island mist zin/pomegranate kit

where going to move the process forward ... :se

joeswine · Nov 11, 2014

Island mist kit continued

the flow continues................ :mny

joeswine · Nov 11, 2014

zinfandel pomegranate wine

let the fpac begin.................... :slp

...well that brings you up to date Thursday I will see how were doing and do the first racking after secondary ........were on our way. How about you :pty

barbiek · Nov 13, 2014

Putterrr said:
I will jump in here. He uses 2 sugar to 1 water. If i find the post, i will add the link for ya

cheers

thank you putter was sure I read that somewhere but just wanted to make sure as joe has a long and well deserved thread! I had googled it but gave 3 different recipes and good luck with finding the post! going to copy and paste and put it in my notes when you find it. Just trying to use this site which I thought I had down from lurking but well you know

joeswine · Nov 13, 2014

simple syrup

simple syrup is a two to one mix as follows....

LoneTreeFarms · Nov 14, 2014

completely off topic but if you had a 2 to 1 ratio how'd you end up with 4 jars?

sour_grapes · Nov 14, 2014

LoneTreeFarms said:
completely off topic but if you had a 2 to 1 ratio how'd you end up with 4 jars?

I'm not Joe, and I don't know if this is the answer in his case, but (a) you know that volume is not conserved during dissolution (or a chemical reaction, for that matter), right? And (b) a "volume" of sugar is not 100% sugar; there are plenty of spaces (or air pockets, if you will) between the sugar granules.

joeswine · Nov 14, 2014

simple syrup

okay good question,2 to 1 mix as a base, but I chose to double that and make 4 quarts at a time so= 4 quarts of sugar/ two quarts of water.
you or someone else may not use as much as I do and knowing that each quart raises the sg 1 point I usually us two at a time so if I'm going to make ,I make .got it????/

joeswine · Nov 16, 2014

zinfandel pomegranate wine

okay lets try this again, were ready for the final racking and then will decide just how much of the fpac we'll use. Follow :spm