Thanks Tom, I will do that. I had some frozen wild blue berries left from 08 vacum packed, 10lbs . So what the heck I thought I would try another 3 gal batch. I was rasing the sg to the 1.080 that you suggested I should have done for the last batch, only problem I was adding just a bit of sugar, stirring, waiting and then very carefully adding until I got there, I was almost there when I noticed the top of my hydrometer was broken in the wine thief. I was not able to test it again, I dont have a backup sg meter. I accounted for the pieces of glass, unless a couple of fragments the sized of a grain of sand escaped. I will filter it when I rack the wine with a funnel and #35 filter just to be sure, I saw something like that in a cataloge. It was a bummer, it was like the top of the hydrometer just wore out....I ordered one and it will be 3 or 4 days before I get it.