RJ Spagnols ICE WINE

[Tom]

I recently got 5 gallons if ICE WINE juicefrom Canada. It was a left over from last yrs crop. any one make it from JUICE?

What yeast did you use.. etc...

 

[Wade E]

Have not made it from juice but would suggest EC 1118 or Premier Cuvee as Im sure the starting SG is very high and they are supposed to end up with a pretty high abv.

 

[grapeman]

Wade I wouldn't want this one high ABV. These are supposed to be sweet desert wines not rocket fuel. Pick something that will enhance the fruit and keep the alcohol in the 12-14 range.

 

[Wade E]

Im not familiar with juices but all the ice wine kits use these and start with a very high Sg and finish off with an sg of around 1.055.

 

[grapeman]

Knowing the type of juice you got and the current sg would help in determining what to use.


After saying that, I would probably use K1-V1116 myself, just because.


For an article on just this subkject see the following article in WineMaker Magazine.


http://www.winemakermag.com/stories/vf/article/indices/38-varietalswine-styles/810-sparkling-icewine-techniques




Here is an excerpt from it about the yeast.
Choose a strong fermenting yeast with low nutrient requirements specifically recommended for icewine production, such as Lalvin K1V-1116, and rehydrate two (2) 5-g packets in 100 mL of water at a temperature between 95–105° F (35–40° C) for 15 minutes. At the same time as when adding the yeast to the water, also add one teaspoon of natural yeast rehydration nutrients, such as GO-FERM®.

 

[Wade E]

You know I never thought about it until you posted this Rich that all my ice wines died off around 14.2. Both the RJS and he W.E kits started with a very high SG of around 1.165 and both ended around 1.055. The RJS kits came with EC1118 and the Winexpert came with Premier Cuvee. The only difference was that Winexpert came witha very small f-pack for the Peach flavor. Why do you think these died off early like that?

 

[Tom]

Well I was talking to a winemaker in Canada. He has been making Ice Wine for years. Being in Canada they also have the opportunity to get fresh juice. He also suggested to get BA-11 yeast. Said it works best because of the high sugar content... ie 35 brix

 

[grapeman]

As long as you can get some 5-gram packets of the BA-11, that one would work well also. Here is a link to all kinds of yeast and there tolerances and activities, sensitivities, etc. Very good resource.


http://www.lallemandwine.us/products/yeast_chart.php


Below, here is the chart reproduced from Lallemand. I made sure the copyright is on the page.







<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=587><T>
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<TR vAlign=top>
<TD width=586>YEAST CHART


This chart is meant to help you conquer the challenge of choosing the right yeast for every fermentation. The data in the chart is only intended as a guide. Please refer to the Naturally Selected Yeast and Cellar Sections for additional guides. For specific questions please email or call your local Lallemand representative or distributor.


Some notes:
<UL>
<LI>Highest rating = 4
Lowest rating = 1
<LI>Please note that the 'temperature range' column does not indicate the 'optimum temperature range'. Keep in mind that a yeast's ability to ferment within the given range will depend on the alcohol potential and other antagonistic conditions.
<LI>The 'relative nitrogen requirement' refers to how much nitrogen one yeast requires relative to the other yeasts on the chart.
<LI>The 'H<SUB>2</SUB>S production' columns refer to the yeast's relative H<SUB>2</SUB>S production in a chardonnay juice under limiting (60ppm) and at 170ppm assimilable nitrogen
<LI>EVC = Enhances Varietal Character </LI>[/list]



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<TD ="chartproducts">2</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">3</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
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<TD align=left ="chartproducts">Lalvin 4600<SUP>®</SUP></TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">2</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">2</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">esters</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">13-22</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">moderate</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">active</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">15</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD>
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<TD align=left ="chartproducts">Lalvin RHST<SUP>®</SUP></TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">neutral</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">10-30</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">moderate</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">active</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">15</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">medium</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD></TR>
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<TD align=left ="chartproducts">Lalvin T73™</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">esters</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">18-35</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">moderate</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">active</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">16</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD></TR>
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<TD align=left ="chartproducts">Lalvin V1116 (K1)™</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">2</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">3</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">3</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">10-35</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">fast</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">18</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD></TR>
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<TD align=left ="chartproducts">Lalvin W15™</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">3</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">10-27</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">16</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">high</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD></TR>
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<TD ="chartproducts">2</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">3</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">3</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">neutral</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">neutral</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD></TR>
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<TD align=left ="chartproducts">Uvaferm SVG™</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">medium</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD></TR>
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<TD align=left ="chartproducts">Uvaferm VRB<SUP>®</SUP></TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">2</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">15-28</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">moderate</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">neutral</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">17</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">medium</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">high</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD></TR>
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<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">12-25</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">moderate</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">neutral</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">14</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">medium</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">low</TD></TR>
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<TD align=left ="chartproducts">Vitilevure M83™</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">2</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
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<TD ="chartproducts">17-28</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">moderate</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">neutral</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">15</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">medium</TD>
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<TD align=left ="chartproducts">Vitilevure M05™</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">4</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
<TD ="chartproducts">1</TD>
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[Tom]

Yep,
That's what I got. But,I got that from Canada. Is there a source in the States I can get BA-11 and R-2 from?

 

[vcasey]

Try MoreWine. The have a large variety of yeasts.
VPC

Just checked the site they have both in 8 or 80 gram size. Here is the link: http://morewinemaking.com/search/103218//all

 

[Tom]

Thanks,

 

[RkyMtnWine]

just curious... I have the Cru Select Red Ice Wine currently in the primary and Sg at this time is 1.062. Beginning Sg was 1.151. Instructions say to proceed to stabilizing and clearing when sg hits between 1.050 and 1.060. My plan is to rack at mid stream.. 1.055. In your experience is there much of a difference in taste from .050 to .060

 

[Wade E]

Not really, it is so overly sweet at this point its typically hard to tell the difference. It will smooth out over time though and become awesome, I didnt like mine at all when it was done but after 8 months it had come around 100% and became a competition worthy wine .Just follow the instructions and youll be fine.

 

[Tom]

Your wine will just be a little sweeter.

BTW I have a few bottles left from 10 years ago.2 years ago we had a blind taste test with my Ice Wine and a commerical Ice wine. Mine won hands down. So, even Ice Wine gets better with aging. I still have my Canidian Ice Wine (started 10/08) aging in a 5 gallon carboy. Might bottle maybe in the fall..?

 

[Wade E]

I have to say that if you like this wine try the Peach Ice wine as its spectacular right from the carboy, Its been bulk aging for a few months only and is very very good already!

 

[RkyMtnWine]

Peach Ice Wine sounds great, made fresh peach wine this fall and it was a big hit. Did a search on georges kits and did not find a peach ice wine...Was that aRJ Spagnols kit

 

[Wade E]

It was a limited edition W.E. kit which sold out fast!