Well, I have no activity in the primary this morning. Here's the recipe I used: 3 gal apple juice, Monseret (sp) yeast and the corn sugar for which I substituted 19oz of corn syrup. No nutrients, nothing else. Also said it would be ready to start nippin on in roughly 45 days. Everything else I made has to age ssooooo long the quickness was intriging. I'm really parched for a little homemade wine. TheSkeeter Pee has turned out great and I starting to have a little trouble keeping it on hands, friends and all. But, back to the Apfelwein. I'm going to give it another 24 hrs to start fermentation and if no action at that time I'm going to make a starter that has nutrients and pitch it. Any thoughts?