I going to give this a try using the Costco.ca Argentina Ridge Cabernet Sauvignon 60 bottle kit. It's $105 CAD with shipping and taxes. I'd rather experiment on a cheaper kit. Then not so much to lose. But I still think I can get a good product out of it. I will probably pick up some black grapes to add the skins. I will also use less water as many on this forum have suggested making a few bottles less and it's less watered down tasting.