I am just curious to see what methods and ingredients everyone else uses to make hard apple cider, or apple wine. I have made apple wine for about 2 years now, and I like how it tastes, but I recently tried another wine that was alot lower in alcohol, and its taste was sweet and smooth, and it was clear.. They called it hard apple cider, but I thought that hard apple cider was always cloudy and brown, like cider.... Anyway, the way I usually make my apple wine is: 5 gallons apple cider(from local cider mill), and lt brown sugar. I haven't tried to add any other ingredients yet, but maybee I will this year.