Sanitation without Dishwasher

[TNFISHRMAN]

What are some cleaning and sanitation tips you all could give others like myself who do not have a Dishwasher when It comes to cleaning and sanitation of Equipment and Bottles. I am finally beginning to reuse some bottles that have been previously filled and have about 6 batches on my carboys so I know that a bacterial infection is a real possibility and I want to avoid it!! I use hot water rinse and Sodium Metabisulphite to coat all surfaces and re-rinse. I will also use B-brite on my primary and Carboys rinse aftewards. Thanks, Lynn

 

[masta]

Personally I think using the dishwasher is nota good wayto clean any of your equipment or bottles and would avoid it all together! Just follow these two simple steps:
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<LI>Washall surfaces that contact your wine untilthey arevisually clean</LI>
<LI>Sanitize all surfaces with a proper sanitizer</LI>[/list]

 

[PolishWineP]

I'm right there withMasta. We never use our dishwasher for wine equipment other than glasses. And those are the cheap glasses! Just follow the program Masta has listed and you should be good to go. Be sure to keep your carboy and bottle brushes clean!

 

[masta]

Another quick item...never use anything abrasive to clean you equipment. Use soft brushes only as any scratches in plastic are a great place for bacteria to hide and ruin your wine.

 

[bilbo-in-maine]

[any scratches in plastic are a great place for bacteria to hide and ruin
your wine.]

Masta, can you please explain what ruined wine is? If a bacterial infection
occurs, what are the symtoms and what really happens to the wine itself?

 

[masta]

I have never experienced a bacterial infection in my wine but here is a chart that will explain some types:
<H3 align=center>The Diagnosis of Faults in Wine </H3>
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To use the table, look for the fault in the left-hand column. In the right-hand column is found either the cause or reference numbers for later diagnosis.

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Lactobacillus infection. </TD></TR>
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Leuconostoc infection. </TD></TR>
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Toropsulosis infection. </TD></TR>
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Layering in wine </TD>
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Wine recently blended. Allow longer aging. </TD></TR>
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Wrong color for style </TD>
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Hydrogen sulphide in wine. </TD></TR>
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Acetified wine. </TD></TR>
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Mousel </TD>
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Butyric acid bacteria infection. </TD></TR>
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Rancid </TD></TR>
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Fishy </TD></TR>
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Burnt </TD>
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Wine either over-cooked or intended as Madeira type. Charcoal fine if former. </TD></TR>
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Caramel </TD></TR>
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Corked </TD>
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Cork infection. Discard wine. </TD></TR>
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“Swimming bath” </TD></TR>
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Asbestos </TD>
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Filter medium not washed before use. Discard wine. </TD></TR>
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Cardboard </TD></TR>
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Paper </TD></TR>
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Earthy </TD>
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Wine over-fined with Bentonite or dirt from ingredients. </TD></TR>
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Yeasty </TD>
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Young wine. Allow to mature. </TD></TR>
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Aldehydic </TD></TR>
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Astringent </TD>
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Too much tannin. </TD></TR>
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Over or under acid </TD>
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Reduce with calcium carbonate
Or
Add acid and mature </TD></TR>
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Bitter </TD>
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Lactobacillus infection with mannitol. </TD></TR>
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Cooked </TD>
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Ingredients boiled too long. </TD></TR>
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CO<SUB>2</SUB> still present. Fermenting or malolactic fermentation. </TD></TR>
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Wine on lees too long. Try charcoal. </TD></TR>
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[Hippie]

Dude, that is a nice chart! Thanks!

 

[bilbo-in-maine]

Okay....
That's a lot that can go wrong. I wonder how often these things happen to
the home wine maker.

 

[masta]

From my own experiences and reading on forums like this one I would say the chances are very slim to none to end up with a bad batch due to infection if you keep you work area clean and use proper sanitation procedures.

 

[peterCooper]

Which is not to say that these things don't happen. If you're on a forum like
this and get the message about sanitation and you keep reading and
learning, you probably avoid most problems.

Some input from George here could be useful. What about all the people
who don't get involved in the forum, and, as a result, don't learn those
important lessons from someone else's experience? They're probably more
prone to errors and problems.

I imagine George spends half his day filling orders and the rest trying to
solve people's problems.

 

[Joseph1]

If they are learning fromthe forum or calling George, that's a good thing. The bad thing isthe potential winemaker that gets a couple of kits started, has a bad experience, doesn't seek assistance from the forum or George and quits the hobby.

 

[peterCooper]

Absolutely!

 

[TNFISHRMAN]

Guys I am going to chime in here a second. This has been the most helpful place to find information that I could ever find. I am 8 months into the hobby and I have learned things to avoid problems that a friend of mine does not know and he has been making wine for years and has won several golds in competition. I am not saying that I know more than he does because I never will. I have just been able to learn from others mistakes as well as my own. Learing a lot of tips and trick to make wine making easier has also been a big plus of this forum. I have always been able to ask a question without feeling stupid for doing so. I have always felt that the only stupid question is the one that goes un-asked. My hats off to a great forum and a great bunch of people.

As far George goes he is great too. I have almost quit using my local supply store. I feel like I am looked down upon or talked down to when I am there. I know that I am losing money upon shipping but, I would rather spend it with someone who wants to help me learn!!! Thanks to you also George!!!! Lynn

 

[masta]

Lynn,


Glad to have you as part ofthe FineVineWines familyand it is a compliment to everyone involved that youenjoy the forum and find it helpful. We are blessed withso many experienced winemakersthat have a real passion for making wine and sharing their knowledge and this is why it has been so successful.

 

[geocorn]

Thanks for all of the kind words. I really do want each and everyone of you to be successful. I also realize shipping costs play a part in your buying decisions. I accept that fact (most of the time) that I can not sell to everyone, but I can help everyone.


Peter is correct. I do spend a lot of time on the phone and answering emails, but that facet of my work is a whole lot more fun than shipping boxes.

 

[PolishWineP]

George, you are one of the luckiest people I know. You had the guts to do what you wanted to do, not something that would just assure you of paying the bills. Kudos for you that your "job" is something you love!

 

[geocorn]

I consider myself extemely lucky and Blessed! I could not have done this without the support of my wonderful wife and family, and a lot of help from above.


I just wish I knew why it takes us so long to find what we enjoy.

 

[peterCooper]

TN,

Just a comment ...

I have almost quit using my local supply store. I feel like I am
looked down upon or talked down to when I am there. I know that I am
losing money upon shipping but, I would rather spend it with someone
who wants to help me learn!!!

You're not really losing money.... Here is what you are getting (or at least
I am and given your comments I suspect you are too):
1. Better wine at lower cost than you could from a retail store.
2. An education in a timeless and precious subject.
3. A sense of achievement.
4. Appreciation from your friends and family when you share
5. A community of like minded people who love to talk about their
favorite topic and share ideas.

My wine making costs less than
- my TV service
- my internet connection
- the soda, shakes and stabucks the rest of the family drink (well
almost..)

For a hobby, it is inexpensive,fun, occasionally messy but ultimately
fullfilling.

When you calculate shipping, subtract how much it costs to get the car
out and go into town.

Peter

 

[Steve]

In order to prevent mixing up a new batch of sanitizing solution evertime you have to use a tool, would it be ok to mix some up in a bucket and use it for a period of time?


Steve


Groton, CtEdited by: Steve

 

[Steve]

Masta,


George told me that you live in my area and might know of a store where I can pick up my bulky items that cost a lot to ship. I live in Southeastern CT.


Steve


Groton, CT