#2 stopper with 2 holes for vac tank

[GrapeApe]

I'monboard with the vacuum degassing and bought a brake bleeder. I'm concerned that the volume of airspace ina topped up carboy will not be very effective, so I was thinking of using a 1500 ml bottle as a vacuumtank.


So I would connect a vac hose from the carboy bungto one side of a #2 stopper that is in the 1500 ml bottle and have another hose out of the bottle to the vac pump. This will provide a larger volume to draw on.


Is this a valid idea? If so, anyone know where I can find a #2 stopper with 2 drilled holes? The lab supply houses carry them, but only sell in bulk lots of 100+.


Thanks!


GrapeApe.

 

[masta]

$5.00 minimum order here


http://www.thesciencefair.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=lab-sto-2h-1

 

[GrapeApe]

Thanks Masta. I opened the vac pumpkit and it actually came with a T, so I can use the single hole stopper that George sells.


http://www.finevinewines.com/ProdDetA.asp?PartNumber=4608


For those thinking about using the vacuum degassing method - I am amazed at how much gas it pulled out. My forearms got a workout from pumping the vacuum pump.


BTW, here's the link to the pump I got. It's an all metal body and seems to have all of the adapters you'll need. For $17, it seems like a good buy.


http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92474


Good luck!


GrapeApe.

 

[JWMINNESOTA]

Pictures of just how you set it up would be nice.

 

[kutya]

I'm really intersted in trying a brake bleeder, would someone post some pictures, so I could see the set up????

 

[Wade E]

Here is my Bleeder. The 2nd picture is me getting ready to insert the tip into the bung.

 

[kutya]

Thanks wade... How long do you leave the bleeder on???? Are we talking Days, weeks, hours?????Edited by: kutya

 

[Wade E]

It all depends on the wine. There have been a few that I had to use it
for a period of 2 days and the Watermelon kit I did yesterday was done
in 30 minutes. When using it start off pumping slowly until you reach a
- pressure of 10-15 and watch out for the rise of bubbles initially
then keep pumping it up occasionally until you can hold about 15-20
in's. You will notice that the small bubbles are not being pulled up
anymore and that bigger bubbles will rise when pumped up to 20-25. Do
not exceed 25 as this is the safe # for carboys and thats about all the
vacuum that these will hold anyway.

 

[geocorn]

We will be demonstrating one of these at Winestock. I wish I could get them for resale, but I could not compete on the price.

 

[Wade E]

George I cant speak for everyone but i would spend a few more dollars
to include one in a shipment from you over getting it though Northern
Tool or going to my local auto parts store where I get ignored for a
phone call, but I understand if you dont think its worthh a few dollars
to carry them. Personally, I would pay 3$ more to get it from you.

 

[geocorn]

I can't find a place to buy them any cheaper than you can. By the time I add in shipping to get them to me, I would be lucky to break even at $20. I would rather have you save the $3 bucks for more wine related purchases.


Have you seen any other home wine making supply store sell them?

 

[GrapeApe]

Here's a picture of the setup I'm now using. Basically out of the carboybung the tube goes into a T and into a #2 stopper (George sells these for 49 cents, p/n is 4608) then the other side of the T goes to the pump.












The reason I added the 750ml bottle in there is to provide more volume to a topped up carboy. It's not a requirement, but it should give you a break between pumpings.


I'm actually looking forward to de-gassing the Stags Leap Merlot sitting next to the pinot gris batch that is now officially degassed.

GrapeApe

 

[Wade E]

I have not George.

 

[kutya]

I finally got the brake bleeder hooked up this weekend, I had a peach that I have been bulk aging for a while. I thought it was degased, when I hooked the brake bleeder up I couldn't belive the bubbles that were coming out of that thing.... Thanks for the tips everyone. I'm now sold on this little tool...

 

[Mark]

I also tried it for the first time yesterday and was surprised at the amount of bubbling (even after killing 2 batteries on my cordless drill over 45 minutes to get to the point of no more bubbles/foam!). Anyone have any pictures of what the bubbles typically look like at the various stages (first time after the stir/mixstir method at 10in, then at 15in when bubbles are still present, then holding at 15in)?

 

[Wade E]

Well I have a picture at first starting to degass and put it today for
you to see the much bigger bubbles when it is degassed. By the way, I
just tried another fitting that came with the mityvac and it worked way
better. It looks somewhat like a little rubber suction cup instead of
the plastic fitting that I have been using, you just stick it inside
the silcone multisize bung. Will post picture of this to. It seems to
hold a vac. MUCH better.

1st pic is of starting to degas. 2nd is today and the pics dont do it justice as the bubbles are much bigger.

 

[Wade E]

Boy this pics didnt come out to good but you get the picture (HeHeHe).

 

[mississippi mud]

MAN THATS SOME GAS!!!

I'VE GOT TO GET ONE OF THEM VACS

 

[jobe05]

Well worth the money........ I would get one if I were you, wouldn't degas without one myself.

 

[mississippi mud]

I cut the carboy end of my stirer off soIcould attach it to my drill.it performed alot better than my hand but nothing like wade's vac pump.This forumhas the best info.....