With an early frost this year the grapes harvested has PH of 2.95 and TA 16.... probably not worth fermenting but I tried. I fermented with Maurivin B thinking it would eat some of the acid. It didn't. when I got to 1.050 I added wyeast malic 4007. It did not start. I am wondering how to get the PH up enough for the Malic to start.