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Thanks, Greg. Very kind of you to add to my understanding!

Great great great. Thank you grandly, srcorndog. (oh, and no, not a graft... that would be for experts like you!)

My thanks to both of you! Sdog... pardon the idiot here, but when you say cut it back to pencil size, are you referring to cutting both of the shoots back to where they branch off from the main stem? If so, how close do you recommend? And of course our dead of winter is one night of 38 degrees...

And when I say real.... Attaching shots of a vine we planted this past spring here in Southern California. We have no flat land, hence the pot. It started well, I trimmed off a third shoot and trained the others to grow northward. As the very hot summer dragged on I attached the mesh you see...