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    New winery in KS. Looking for better price structure understanding

    Good advice Sal. No, I have not had a chance to soak up the resources offered as of yet but I work with KSU on some other ag ventures so I know the drill. I appreciate the thoughts on the venture. However, I do not intend to reach beyond personally grown wines. I think this is mostly an...
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    New winery in KS. Looking for better price structure understanding

    Correct me if I am wrong but you still need a quality grape for semis anyway? Are you just saying that trying to get the European standard level of taste probably is not worth chasing since most people don't know quality when they taste it? Are these wineries seriously just sugaring up their...
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    New winery in KS. Looking for better price structure understanding

    I think that is where I hate to dive into TOO strange and weird. I looked at cider here for only a moment to realize NO WAY. It sells at beer price with about 5% of the market pool even interested. One walk into the jam and jelly store and you realize what you are up against! I would be...
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    New winery in KS. Looking for better price structure understanding

    Great points guys. I want to try to explain my business goals here so maybe we can all entertain some ideas. The primary goal is direct farm to consumer products. We are in some other markets but looking to diversify. I do indeed understand that wining is NOT easy and I certainly have not...
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    New winery in KS. Looking for better price structure understanding

    I agree and I usually come off as uneducated online so I will walk carefully. I do agree that I am not exactly a wine guru "yet". But I did not know much about beer 5 yrs ago... I am excited to visit some Kansas wineries and do some learning. I am hoping to get some private tours and do some...
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    New winery in KS. Looking for better price structure understanding

    I agree, this is part of my research right now. I won't even set a post for vines until I have some numbers to work with. I am likely to completely forgo the tasting portion of the winery unless I find language that it is required. As a start up, I would highly target sales direct to licensed...
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    New winery in KS. Looking for better price structure understanding

    I appreciate the responses. Sal, we would certainly be drip irrigating but there is some indication that the plants really need to endure a certain level of stress to reduce grape size and increase the skin ratio for more flavor. All just in some reading so far and I am sure the first few...
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    New winery in KS. Looking for better price structure understanding

    Would you happen to know if these wineries are "farm wineries" that only direct sell their product from their own facility rather than distribute? The 3 tier sales process of alcoholic beverages in KS is a glitch that is very tough to overcome financially. You will effectively give up about...
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    New winery in KS. Looking for better price structure understanding

    We are a farm in central KS, currently growing beer products and privately brewing great beers. We would like to expand commercially but found the volume in beer making to make a dollar may be very tough. We have decided to get involved in the wine business. I realize some may feel this is a...
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