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Message: <blockquote data-quote="goncalo luis pina" data-source="post: 833077" data-attributes="member: 50926"><p>i already plant a land i have , its a sunny slope turning east clay soil with good drenage i planted 200 grapevines there  100 douro valley grapes touriga nacional, touriga franca, tempenilo its not because im portuguese but i think douro valeey reds can matchs any of the best world wines great and diferent flavours also 50 merlot and 50 pinout noir clone 115 they are planted and they are growing well this year i will defenitive make wine from my grapes i have another pice of land somowath cooler less sun hours wicth i plant 50 pinout noir as well  however is in the botow of a small valley with a small creek its also clay but extremely fertile but cooler im thinking more pinout  but only if i could find low yielding hig quality clones like 943  wicth i coud find but nobody is wiling to ship to me in portugal yet im sure i coud find it i live 15 km from the sea portugal is to hot for pinout but summers here in atlantic coast are mild i migth get lucky i just love the flavour of pinout and its so expensive in portugal it hurts.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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