Those were pretty much my thoughts also but had toi throw that out there since it does make some sense. I know I have played around with some recipes and liked the end result better although I have never added a grape skin pack to a kit wine that didnt include it yet mainly because it just really wasnt an option to get these packs but probably will try it a few times in the future. The only problem with that is that I most likely wont have done the kit without it 1st to compare it too.