Started my green apple riesling last night. I hate those caps on the juice bags. I tried to take it off gently like the instructions say, but it would not budge. So, I had to use force and juice splashed all over the floor, my arm, the chair, and my face!! ahhhh! But in the end, my starting S.G. was 1.050. I can tell you that my arm did taste pretty good! I almost thought I was a cat!