As many entries as there are, think it mite be a little hard to come up with a winner. After the first few swallows, they all taste the same. My entry is already starting out as a disaster, Dave. Still counting on last place. Only hint I can give, the basement is cold, the ferment is slow, and if it doesn't stick, I will be suprised. It was clear down to 1.080 today, going to have to figure out how to hide the alcohol. I didn't realize how much sugar each can had in it. Will figure out somethin tho. Arne.