Ok, I have been reading this forum for months now and thanks to everyone for all of the information. My wife & I enjoy wine and after my daughter got married this past March we decided to fill the void with making wine as a hobby. I searched many web sites looking for information mainly because I had no idea of how to start and what equipment I would need. When I found George’s web site and started watching the videos I knew right away I had found the help and information I needed. We bought the Premier Equipment Package and never regretted spending the extra money for the better equipment. So far we have made eight kits since mid April and we have two others getting ready to break out of the box. I’m in the process of building a wine cellar in a basement room that we used for storage – hopefully sometime this winter I’ll have it completed and post some photo’s. Again, I thank everyone for many hours of reading and learning and especially George and everyone from Fine Vine Wines for the great service.