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Old 06-08-2016, 06:31 AM   #11
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I live in an area in PA that many businesses still abide by the blue laws. We are so behind the times. At times I think I see Eddie Haskell drive past my house.

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Old 06-08-2016, 07:04 AM   #12
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My fingers are crossed. We publish a publication for the State that have among other things the Governor's vetos, had a lot of them lately. Like I said, fingers and toes crossed on this one!
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Old 06-08-2016, 07:17 AM   #13
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Would you agree?

Communism = having the only choice of a store owned by the government that has no fear of competition. The state tells you what you can purchase and for how much..

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Old 06-08-2016, 07:24 AM   #14
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Virginia has Beer/Wine available in grocery stores, convenience stores and gas stations (though I believe there are limits to the hours they can be sold - ie: not after 2am and before 6am or something). We also have state run stores that sell liquor and wine. A lot (maybe all) of the grocery employees here are union, so if union jobs were impacted by letting grocery stores sell beer and wine, they were probably just moved to grocery chains. Overall, I wouldn't see a net loss here for anyone other than potentially in state wineries who now have other states shipping wine into VA. But the VA wine industry seems to be doing very well, so I don't think that was an issue.

The fat lady hasn't even entered the stadium for PA on this one, but I hope she's singing soon.
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Old 06-08-2016, 10:07 AM   #15
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Let just keep the focus here on changing an archaic wine law that needs to go and not start talking about politics in general and we should be fine.

WA State amended their law several years ago and closed down the State run liquor stores and the sky didn't fall nor did DUI go out of control with more options. WA State had a couple of things going for them that unfortunately PA doesn't and that is a HUGE rapidly expanding Wine Industry as well as being the Corporate headquarters for a small business named Costco. You could already buy beer and wine in Costco and Grocery stores you just couldn't purchase liquor in a Costco or Safeway etc and now you can.

I want the fine people of PA to have unlimited options when it comes to wine and I want them to be able to join a wine club from an out of State winery and have it sent to them like the rest of the USA can do.

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Communism = having the only choice of a store owned by the government that has no fear of competition. The state tells you what you can purchase and for how much..

--- please remove this if too political ---
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Old 06-08-2016, 10:29 AM   #16
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For the good of the order - the Governor indicated that he will sign the legislation. If done correctly, wine will be available in licensed areas in grocery stores (those that have restaurant licenses and a wine-to-go permit) and at bars and restaurants. Currently, there are about 160 grocery stores with these type of licenses in PA. I anticipate that hundreds (or as many as a thousand) more grocery stores will join in. Consumers may purchase as many as four bottles in a single transaction.

Look for this to really start showing itself just before Thanksgiving.
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:51 PM   #17
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Envious. Still waiting for the big liquor lobby money to get out of the way in Tennessee politics. I will be dead by then, I am sure...

I have run business plan numbers three ways to Sunday, but in a state where the only place you can sell your wine is on your own premises, a winery is a retirement money pit for rich folks, or a business tax dodge for rich folks. I ain't rich. Gotta see black numbers, not the red ones...
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Done!

PA is now the 44th state to allow winery-to-consumer shipping. Gov. Wolf signed HB 1690 today, bringing expanded consumer choice in wine to PA!

The bill is effective in 60 days but gives the state and wineries some time to issue and receive required DTC licenses.

Thanks to all of you who wrote letters and supported the cause! It worked!

Free the Grapes!
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Old 06-08-2016, 05:14 PM   #19
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I was so happy I just streaked across the back yard. ... Actually said I'd do it and my wife laughed so hard she almost wet her pants.

I am happy I now live in a somewhat normal state (not of mind, of geography).

Yoo hoo!
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:21 PM   #20
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I am very glad this has passed, it is a long time coming. The sad part of this, I don't buy any wine!!!!!!!
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