Well to get involved in grapes youll need to step up to a Crusher/destemmer and a press and thats a big investment. It would also help to use and have a knowledge of some test equipment when making wine from grapes like a PH meter minimum. AQ primary fermenter is something youll always need so the buckets will always be buckets but will get much bigger once you start going grapes. I am selling pumps and filtration units for the pumps so you dont have to lift thedse big bulky carboys and buckets if your interested in that, I have a bad back and lifting 6 gallons of wine is not smart. You can rack from floor to countertop with a pump. If interested go to the Home page and scroll down to our classifieds area and look under used or new pumps and also whole house filters. I sell everything to set up a system like the dble drilled rubber bungs, hoses, racking canes.