After doing lots of research on the internet I decided to give wine making a try. I live in a rural area so the closest supply store I know of is about a 60 mile trip. Went and pruchased an "equipment kit" and at the advise of the owner a container of "Vintner's HARVEST'', elderberry wine base. Following the directions I just added the yeast. At 68 deg. (pretty constent in my basement) how long before I should get a bubble? Just located this site and thus far am really impressed.