Would you give this a try?

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  1. M38A1

    M38A1 Member

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    Last year we harvested more Muscadine grapes then we could process at that time. Much went into jelly with the rest mixed with sugar and water as a concentrate then sealed in Ball Mason 12oz jars with heat. I'm guessing it's just considered grape juice concentrate at this point and if you add a jar of water or two it tastes just like grape juice. I have about a dozen 12oz jars that have just been sitting on a shelf.

    Would you give these a whirl and try to see if a batch of wine could be made from them? I was thinking I'd test each jar for pressure (if it hisses when opened) I'd be fairly comfortable the contents were preserved properly. Then I'd smell it and then give it a taste. If all was good I'd dump that in a primary with the others as I test them, get a good SG and see what happens.

    What would you do - try it or toss it?
     
  2. dralarms

    dralarms Overboard as usual Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Yes I would.
     
  3. AkTom

    AkTom Supporting Members Supporting Member

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    No question. Do it. You’ll be glad you did.
     
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    You risk a buck and a quarter for yeast and maybe two more dollars for neutreants and bentonite and ect.
    You can always turn it in to vinegar if you don't like it.
     
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    Just be certain that each jar has not lost the vacuum seal. Ball/Mason lids have a slight bow and they should be sealed under heat and suck the lid down when you put them up. I'd sure give it a try.
     
  6. M38A1

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    Alrighty----

    I opened each of the jars and every one of them had a tight seal. They were sealed last year with some unknown quantity of sugar already added. I started with just shy of two gallons of this sweetened Muscadine grape juice concentrate in the primary and added 2qts spring water to bring the SG to 1.100 from 1.130. pH is sitting at 3.4 via the addition of 2-7/8 tsp of potassium bicarbonate. (hey johnd - notice that 1/8tsp increment? :) ) Added 2 crushed Campden tabs, and will now let this sit until tomorrow evening at which point I'll add 1tsp Pectic Enzyme and EC-1118.

    Stay tuned!
     
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    Last night I rehydrated and pitched the EC-1118 yeast and a tsp of yeast energizer. This morning I somewhat expected to see some action on top where the yeast was poured and there was nada. Not a bubble, not a trace of yeast. To say I was bummed was an understatement. I'm guessing here, but the two Campden tablets I added 24hrs prior to potentially kill off any natural yeasts may have still been present in the 2gal of grape juice and killed the yeast culture.

    So here's the question..... I had my juice at a good pH/acid starting point as well as the SG 24 hours prior. Could this just be slow or is there a pretty good possibility my theory is correct at just 12hrs post yeast pitch? Still leaning all these little nuances in getting the process right.
     
  8. Johnd

    Johnd Large Member Supporting Member

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    Don’t get worried until you surpass 3-4 days, sometimes it’s just a slow process.
     
  9. sour_grapes

    sour_grapes Victim of the Invasion of the Avatar Snatchers

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    In general, you shouldn't expect to see any signs that quickly. I can usually see some signs after about 36 hours, but it can take longer.
     
  10. M38A1

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    Thank you both again. You seem to keep my sanity in check and I VERY much appreciate you keeping me in line. :)

    I'll keep this thread going as it progresses.
     

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