I started this kit without skins mid-December 2019, including fermentation tannin, and then tannin complex after first rack. I switched the supplied generic yeast for RP-15. I just racked (2nd rack) into 5 G carboy, plus 3 full bottles to sample. Added tannin riche extra to the 5 G carboy for aging. Just sampled the dregs left over after racking and was surprisingly impressed - this has far more body and mouthfeel than the handful of Eclipse kits I have done that included skins. Not sure if it is the switch to RP-15 yeast (first time using), but this tempranillo is setting up to be seriously good. Looking forward to hearing the experience of others.