I've never bought anything from S and S but did visit their warehouse during a party they threw. Their grapes looked good as did their storage conditions. I didn't buy anything because they didn't, at the time, have what I was looking for. At S and S you get what they have in, there is no pre ordering. The advantage is you can see and possibly test the grapes before you buy them. If you call they will let you know what they have to date.Mainshipfred, I'm interested in the MD/DC area suppliers. Pick your own or post harvest. Hybrid or vinifera.