wild grape indentification

[wilkey43]

I am looking for someone that is good with wild grape indentification I have three different wild grapes growing in the pasture but I can't find a name for one it is growing on a plant that is about 40" tall on top of the plant, there are umbrella looking clusters with fruit that is about 1/8 to1/4" wide inside there is a black juice and 4 seeds (the reason I think this is in the grape family) but the plants are clustered but have not tried to vine out the leaves on the plant are about 5" long and slender the other grap is on a vine and fruit is starting to turn black the third vine

I found out what the first one was
Elderberry
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30672979@N03/3710958840/
might be frost grape
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30672979@N03/3710959222/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30672979@N03/3710148075/

dont know what this one is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30672979@N03/3710147939/


I hope these work better my goal this year is to find what grows wild localy and what I can grow here and make wine out of it

Already
21 lbs blackberry (wild)
4 lbs Strawberry (Planted)

 

[smurfe]

Can't see the pics. Are you trying to upload them here or using a host like Photobucket?

 

[Madriver Wines]

My sister has alot of wild grapes. if I take a pic can ya tell me if they are worth a crap or not smurfe?
Still cant see the pics