Time for a new press

[grapeman]

I did get pictures and even some video, but just too tired out after the long hard days while battling kidney stones at the same time. I'm getting a bit anemic from all the blood loss and the danged nurse I spoke with today said I need to wait until Tuesday for painkillers until my next doctors appointment........................The sonogram probe yesterday really hurt when the tech pushed on the kidney and that made the blood loss worse.

 

[Runningwolf]

LMAO, you tell him Greg!

Rich you want to add that water slowly which I'm sure you know. Depending how large your press is, after the first press we remove the lid, knock down the cake from the sides and fill 'er back up with more grapes instead of cleaning it out every time. Each load getting two presses (30psi and then 25 psi). Ours is quite old and pictured below.

 

[Runningwolf]

I did get pictures and even some video, but just too tired out after the long hard days while battling kidney stones at the same time. I'm getting a bit anemic from all the blood loss and the danged nurse I spoke with today said I need to wait until Tuesday for painkillers until my next doctors appointment........................The sonogram probe yesterday really hurt when the tech pushed on the kidney and that made the blood loss worse.

WOW that's the pits! Been there done that. Hope you're feeling better soon.

 

[GreginND]

I did get pictures and even some video, but just too tired out after the long hard days while battling kidney stones at the same time. I'm getting a bit anemic from all the blood loss and the danged nurse I spoke with today said I need to wait until Tuesday for painkillers until my next doctors appointment........................The sonogram probe yesterday really hurt when the tech pushed on the kidney and that made the blood loss worse.

Oh man. Take care. Hope you get that resolved quickly. Kidney stones really suck.

 

[grapeman]

I'm sure it will be worked out in the end or at least at the end like they always have been. Getting too many to count now..... Batting about 1 in 4 to need removal by the doctor. One of the main reasons I bought the new press. The old ratchet press just beat me up too badly.

 

[ibglowin]

Take care of yourself Rich!

 

[Wade E]

Oh I feel your pain Rich. I used to get a lot of kidney stones when I was younger! I havent yad any in years now thank God. I stopped drinking a lot of milk and drink a lot of citrus juice to alleviate it and irs worked really good for me.

 

[ceramicbrad]

Lancman Press Apple Bushel Capacity seems wrong on Oesco website as of 11/19/2013

Grapeman:


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Hi I believe the bushel capacity is wrong as listed on the Oesco website for all models.(see http://www.oescoinc.com/orchard-nursery/lancman-water-presses/lancman-vspi-x250-water-operated-bladder-press.html
Take for example the 250L model...
1 bushel = 35.2 Liters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_measure

or see the conversion:
http://www.traditionaloven.com/culinary-arts/volume/convert-liter-l-to-bushel-bu-us.html


Therefore, 250L/35.2L = 7 Bushels about half of what they post on their website...
I have emailed them but they have not responded yet..
My 90L bladder press only holds about 2.5 bushels of apples(crushed) and this makes sense: 90L/35L =2.5 Bushels
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Brad Harper, Sparta, Wisconsin

 

[grapeman]

I can't speak for the company so I don't know for sure, but I assume they are giving the capacity of bushels of fresh apples that can be added to the press after grinding. There is a lot of air space between the apples that will be eliminated upon grinding. In other words you could begin with 10 bushels of apples, grind them and have it all fit in the press. For example this year we took 20 bushels of apples and ground them. They easily fit in two pressings.

 

[ceramicbrad]

Dry Measure to Wet Measure

10 bushels of crushed apples fit into the press? Perhaps there is a dry to wet conversion needed.That is interesting. What type of consistency do you have coming out of the crusher(scratter)? Better yet could you let me know what brand of crusher you use? Mine is an E.C. Krause stainless.http://www.eckraus.com/stainless-steel-fruit-crusher.html

I crushed about 10 bushels a few days ago and could only fit about 2.5 bu in my 90L Speidel press. Of course I did not try and jam them in the press. I will attach a photo of the size of the material after it was pressed. Note that the whole apples and some of the larger chunks were rejects not put in the crusher.

 

[grapeman]

What might make a difference could be the fact that we let the crushed fruit macerate with some pectic enzyme and then some yeast for a few days. The resulting mash is then pressed out and fermentation continued. I think you might be asking for a concrete answer when there really isn't one for all situations.

If you feel this is too small for your requirements, then look at larger more expensive alternatives.

 

[AppleValley]

Grapeman:


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Hi I believe the bushel capacity is wrong as listed on the Oesco website for all models.(see http://www.oescoinc.com/orchard-nursery/lancman-water-presses/lancman-vspi-x250-water-operated-bladder-press.html
Take for example the 250L model...
1 bushel = 35.2 Liters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_measure

or see the conversion:
http://www.traditionaloven.com/culinary-arts/volume/convert-liter-l-to-bushel-bu-us.html


Therefore, 250L/35.2L = 7 Bushels about half of what they post on their website...
I have emailed them but they have not responded yet..
My 90L bladder press only holds about 2.5 bushels of apples(crushed) and this makes sense: 90L/35L =2.5 Bushels
...
Brad Harper, Sparta, Wisconsin

Brad, there is a fundamental problem with your logic and it is that you can't directly convert liters to bushels of apples. There are a lot of ways one could look at this but try thinking about it this way. It is certainly an approximation but the Federal standard for the weight of a bushel of apples is 48 lbs (http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/scales/bushels.html).

Now -- and again this is an approximation because it varies by state -- but a bushel box contains approx. 2150 cubic inches. Convert that to gallons and you come up with 9.3 US gallons. So, if you filled that bushel box with water it should hold 9.3 X 8.3lbs/gallon = 77+ lbs. Which is a lot more than 48 lbs.

What that tells you is that a bushel box of apples contains a lot of air -- both between the fruit and within the fruit.

When people talk about a bushel of apples it is generally accepted that they are talking about a bushel of WHOLE apples - not ground apples as you seem to be implying is the correct way to think about it. This is why you can't make the math work.