- May 8, 2017
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Did you mean you put a recirc pump on a tankless heater? How would that even work?fourth if your on a water meter plan on spending more money running water waiting for the hot water to get to your tap, we typically have to go back and install recirc pumps for the customers which is another cost in itself.
I can tell you I have saved plenty of money with mine during its 12 years and counting of trouble-free, maintenance-free operation. I suppose they're not for everyone, but they work well for us.Dont buy a tankless if you plan on saving money,
Hot water on demand in larger houses are a big issue when the unit is mounted in the basement and the there a bathroom on the third floor, we always install recirc lines in the houses, the times we havent we have 100% of the time got complaints that it takes forever to get hot water to the furthest fixtures, we are on water meters here and paying to run cold water for 60 seconds to get hot water is a big deal for most people.Did you mean you put a recirc pump on a tankless heater? How would that even work?
I can tell you I have saved plenty of money with mine during its 12 years and counting of trouble-free, maintenance-free operation. I suppose they're not for everyone, but they work well for us.
No, not a big family, just the two of us. As I keep saying, a large factor in the savings was the ability to move the unit from one side of the house (where the flue was) to the other side of the house (at the base of the hot water runs). That being said, I acknowledge that estimating energy use and savings is difficult, and it is possible that my payback period was closer to the 11 years you estimate than the 7 years I estimated based on my situation.Thats great, like i said for some people there great, you must use a whole lot of hot water to save 1200$ in 7 years, and like i said people who use a ton of hot water might benefit from the tankless, like i said, family of 6 or more, most people dont use that amount, national average is 41 gal per day which works out to a $108 per year savings, and thats calculated with a new 96% effecient unit, not sure which model you got but the new Navians start at about $2800 not installed, not including the special venting system, not many people can install them on there own, you need special venting, a larger gas regulator, the 1/2” gas pipe is most likely not big enough and youll either need to upsize the gas pipe or run high pressure 2psi gas to the unit and install a new 7”-14” gas reg. In fact here your not even allowed to install them unless you are a certified gasfitter. You cant even buy one in canada without a gas ticket. And if you could find one you still need a permit to install a gas appliance.
It's not sanitizing I'm worried about. It's cleaning. Warm/hot water works so much better for cleaning up destemmers and presses after being soaked with sugar syrup from the grapes.For what it is worth, you don't necessarily need to use hot water to sanitize. For example, OSU researchers say cool water with a sanitizer works just as well.
I use a Bosch 2.5 gallon electric point-of-use water heater. You can get bigger ones, but for one sink they work great. Easy to install and runs on 110V. Never ran out of water under normal use, but I do let the tap run sometimes to flush it a little as it doesn't get a lot of use during certain periods.Anyone use a tankless water heater for your winery. It seems to me that may be a good way to go.
You don't really need that much hot water, just enough to help you sanitize.