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Wife is caring for a horse on this property. I notice they have 20 vines or so, that have not been cared for, for a long time. I had given the owner a few of my bottles and suffice it to say, he did not complain. I asked if he would mind (in Jan) if I pruned and cared for them. He said he had no idea what they were, but to knock myself out.

I pruned the heck out of them, and it is clear that there are three or four different varieties. Four of the vines look like this; what do you think, table or wine grapes?

 
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whatever they are they look great.
 

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Seeded or seedless? Being that there are so few plants and IF they are seedless, I lean towards table. Just my opinion.
 

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Nice score, free vines, looks like you did a great job pruning. Squish some up and test the sugar and acid levels.
 

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regardless of there origin, with additions such as sugar, acid adjustments and tannin, these grapes can make a good wine. the size of the grape seems to large for vinifera wine grapes , but some American gapes such as Niagara, Delaware, Concord etc have the large circumference grape. red or white, once vearison starts monitor acid and sugar levels. once they both reach a level status or 22 brix for sugar and about .6-.9 for acid they should be ready to pick. if they don't get to these numbers pick when you can and do the additives
 

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