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Has anyone had a bluish or greyish film build up inside a carboy that won't come out by sanitizing and rinsing? when there is liquid in it, it looks clear but after drying the film shows up again. I'm thinking this is a result of repeated exposure to one-step, but not sure.
I've seen the video of the 'carboy cleaner' (like a drill degasser except it has long scrubbing pads instead of the plastic wings) and this might work, but I wanted to see if anyone has had luck cleaning this type of thing with something else.

Steve :a1
 

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What ype of cleaner do you use? I've noticed it a liitle bit with EZClean No Rinse. I've used that and a long handeled carboy brush and it seems to reduce it but not completely elimate it. I wont scrub too hard though because I don't want to scratch my carboys (both better bottles and glass.)
 

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Have you tried Oxy Clean? :slp
 

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haven't tried oxy. My thinking on that was, that's what one-step is.?? it isn't?

Tom, are you saying you've successfuly used oxy-clean to clean carboy film?

I just wanted to be clear if this was a known remedy or just a suggestion. Thanks.

what has been tried is 2 cups of bleach in 6 gal water with no visible change.
 
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never had to scrub to clean a carboy or better bottle. the better bottles clean easier because they repel water and grime.
but either way, i soak with PBW and then rinse well and they always look brand new. PBW even makes the primary pails look brand new (no stains, no odor)
 

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I dont use one-step so I have no idea. Like rawlus said maybe PBW..
 

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Oxy Clean, One Step, Easy Clean, PBW are all per-carbonate cleaners. I have never had an issue with any of them staining glass. Plastic hoses is a different story. I will say though that after I clean with these products, I do rinse them. If you don't rinse it will leave a film. I then let the item dry thoroughly before storing.

I regard to the carboy scrubber, are you referring to the one that has the steel shaft with the chamois strips on it I have one and it works great
 

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Ive seen it on wine bottles with the Oxy cleaners, You need to scrub with a bottle brush. Thats why I dont like those no rinse cleaners, they leave a slight build up and eventually it rears its ugly head. I only use them for cleaning and then I rinse them out.
 

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I clean with one step and then leave a half inch or so of k-meta sanitzing soultion in all carboys with a solid bung. Carboys are ready go then when I need one. No staining.
 

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I simply rinse with very hot water and then store with Kmeta in the bottle caped with a piece of plastic cut from a zip lock bag and secured with rubber band.

Seems if the bottles a rinsed with hot water right away the come clean without a cleaner.

When I buy a used bottle I will fill it with a weak muriatic acid solution for a week and the rinse a couple of times. Eats any organic deposits. Never tried it on plastic yet tho.

Also removes lime deposits nicely.
 

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Any kind of dishwasher soap. I just take some from my wifes supply. Splash it around inside the carboy then rinse 3 times. When needed, just sulfite it.
 

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If it's from hard water you could use DISTILLED vinegar. I use it in the dishwasher to remove hard water stains once in a while. A diluted solution 50/50 may remove it. Worth a try - Distilled vinegar vs. cider vinegar removes the chance of acetobacter contamination.
 

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We used to clean our coffee pots at work with regular table salt with some icecubes add enough water to make a slush then slushed it it around until it came clean worked great and no extra chemicals to worry about . I work somewhere different now .I was thinking you could do that for stubborn stuff then clean with your regular cleaners .I plan on trying it if I have that problem .
 

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thanks for all the suggestions peeps. you guys are the best! :br

I'll make sure to update later if and when success occurs.

steve
 

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Update

The film was removed by a combination of PBW and the 'Carboy Cleaner'.


Thanks again everyone. (insert smilie here)
 

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i forgot to tell you I used the salt ,ice cubes and cleaner plus a little water not only did it clean the stubborn part I was trying to get off but the whole carboy came out sparkling .
 

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carboy film

Well let's see, I've been making fruit wines for about 10 years, and about every two or three years I notice the film that you are talking about. I've tried bleach....looks good but I'm sure the film is still there. I don't like the idea of keeping it wet, that just means you can't see the film. My water is not hard or soft where I am right now ( best I've ever had ). I don't like the vinegar idea ( even distilled ) for obvious reasons, but what is carboy cleaner. I was thinking about using one of the denture cleaners, or maybe a hot water pressure wash, that will have to wait til spring! Keep the ideas coming...I'll probably try a few... Thanks
 

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Could this be a "lime or calcium build up". I recently bought so
e used galln carboys that have this. Thought I'd try lime away then rinse the crP out of it.
 

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I think I've got it

:d I just started using Shaklee's "basic H" . That stuff is amazing in everything I've ever tried it on. Environmentally friendly and HIGHLY concentrated. So far I've used it on two carboys and I don't see a film on either.
 

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