Rose Petal Wine - Petal Amount

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brandonman

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This is a pretty basic question, that I can't find an answer to.

I have a few rose bushes that I have been harvesting flowers from this year. I want to make a rose petal wine. I am freezing the petals to preserve them until I've harvested enough off the plant.

How Much Is Enough for a gallon batch? All the recipes I can find are the nebulous "2 pints, lightly compacted", "about 6 cups", "2 quarts", etc. Which, as you can imagine, is incredibly fungible based on how hard "lightly compacted" is.

For people who have done a rose petal wine, what was the OUNCE or GRAM weight of the rose petals you used per gallon? Thanks!
 

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I've been doing Rose Petal wine for close to 40 years, but i've never bothered to weigh the petals! I've only made the wine from wild petals and use between 1.7 - 2 qts per gallon. They naturally compress a bit by the time you pick the 2 quarts - seems like you never reach it. I often will have to pick and then freeze the petals and wait for some more to pick. If you make it - add some sprigs of dill with the seed to a few bottles!
 

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Thanks for the Dill tip! I had this worry of not getting the right amount through freezing and then thawing before doing the measurement by volume (loss of liquid, etc). Seems that's not a concern. Thanks.

I think part of the reason I wanted to get an actual weight measurement was to *know* when I'm ready to go. I don't want to thaw these out and measure the compressed volume, only to need to freeze them again. Seems like it could do some structural damage doing that over and over.

If it ends up that nobody has measured this before, I'll provide a chronicle of my escapade here, once I feel I've got enough petals!
 

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I have to say that the volume people cite for making any kind of flower wine drives me up the wall. Volume has no meaning whatsoever when it comes to measuring solids. I know that cook books in the US use cups and spoons as measures but that is the same piece of malarky: a cup of finely ground sugar can be almost twice as much (by weight) as a cup of roughly ground sugar and a cup of flour that is loosely packed is far less than a cup of flour that is scooped from the bag. Give me solid measures by their weight and liquid measurements by their volume and when you give me a liquid volume give me that volume in a universally understood metric such as liters (or ml). What the hell is a cup? Is a cup in Texas the same size as in London?
 

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I have to say that the volume people cite for making any kind of flower wine drives me up the wall. Volume has no meaning whatsoever when it comes to measuring solids. I know that cook books in the US use cups and spoons as measures but that is the same piece of malarky: a cup of finely ground sugar can be almost twice as much (by weight) as a cup of roughly ground sugar and a cup of flour that is loosely packed is far less than a cup of flour that is scooped from the bag. Give me solid measures by their weight and liquid measurements by their volume and when you give me a liquid volume give me that volume in a universally understood metric such as liters (or ml). What the hell is a cup? Is a cup in Texas the same size as in London?
I'm generally fine with volume measurements. But, for something as fungible as "lightly compacted flower petals", it becomes incredibly questionable, at best, to me!
 
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