While in my time off from work this week. I ran across a long lost school friend of mine. She had just started a batch of Rhubarb/Apple wine. She had gone down into Kansas to talk to an elderly man of his 80's that makes a mighty fine batch of wine. His techniques were quite barren,and something out of the ordinary. He stated the best made wine is from the fruit after it has gone through the first batch of wine making. In other words, after you make a batch of wine, "don't" throw the fruit away and make a second batch from it. He stated that is the best wine you can make. Now, I too am skeptical, but as she is making this second batch of wine from the used fresh fruit, I will be able to sample it down the road. He uses plastic sandwich bagson the top of the jugs/carboys. I did get to sample one of his wines and it was outstanding. I also found someone that makes wine, and uses the yeast off the fruit to make his wine. I haven't been able to get close to him fore he is a person of little words and likes to be left alone. I'm hoping to get closer to him and learn from his experiences before he has to go see his maker. Kind of a grumpy elderly man who is determined to live the rest of his life left alone.