I picked up an old WE chardonnay kit, I mean it was brown when I poured it. I gave it a shot anyway used Polyclar and French oak chips and bentonite and it cleared up very well and right now is about 2 months post ferment and tastes very good, good fruit good acid good tannins. I think I'll leave it alone for a year and it should be very good. So, just wanted to say sometimes old kits are worth making.