This is the worst vine for being loaded with grapes and not many leaves. The shoots were stunted by some 2, 4, D drift early in the summer. Looks like the flowers and grapes were unaffected. I don't know if I'll ever get a normal crop here. I'm in the middle of corn, soy beans, wheat, and cotton crops. I'll be doing some snipping. Some of my vines have more leaves and less grapes, so I won't have to be doing much snipping.