Newbie makes big mistake!

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  1. Kozzie

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    Hi - I[m hoping you can help. On Sunday, I was starting a liebfraumilch kit. Right off the bat, I mistakenly added Potassium Sorbate instead of the required Bentonite. Once I realized the mistake, I went ahead and added the Bentonite and then the yeast packet.

    My question is - do I have 6 gallons of stuff to throw down the drain, or is there anyway I can rescue it? I checked it today and its not doing anything.

    Any advice or suggestions or would be greatly appreciated!
     
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    Lol I started a batch last week of carmelized honey mead and added a gallon of cold press apple juice that was given to me as it had gone past is best if used buy date. Four days later with minnor activity and no change in sg, I dug the juice jug out of the trash to finnaly read the lable. And not organic as I had thought .
    I hydrated a new pack of yeast started about a half gallon with honey and trippled nutreant added ahand full of chopped dates and raisins let it go about 10 hours till it was turbulatly fermenting and added it to the batch. Next morning I could hear the fizz in the bucket.
    So I expect you can save yours too
     
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    Thanks Keith! I'm going to make the yeast starter tonight. I'll post how it goes!
     
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    Didn't get to making the yeast starter until today. Following ec kraus instructions, I've added 1 pint of wine must and a "healthy" 1/4 tsp of yeast nutrient, plus EC118 yeast to a quart jar. Stirred it and covered it. My next question meadmaker1 and Sour_grapes, is that enough yeast nutrient? I'm making 5 gallons. Thanks again!
     
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    When you say "wine must," what do you mean exactly? Given your situation, it should NOT be the must from the kit, because that has sorbate in it. You should use another source. If it were mine, I would consider using a white grape juice that does not have sorbate, benzoate, or other preservative in it. Perhaps something like this:

    White Grape Juice Cocktail Frozen Concentrate http://www.welchs.com/products/juic...white-grape-juice-cocktail-frozen-concentrate

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  8. Kozzie

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    Yep - again a newbie mistake. Why didn't I think of that? I did use wine must. but that's ok. I can go get the white grape juice cocktail concentrate and a packet of yeast and do it again. Sheesh!, I drive myself nuts, sometimes, lol. Thank you.
     
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    I drive myself nuts sometimes, too. But, to be fair, it is not a very far trip! :sm
     
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    I believe jack keller site has a good how and why to rehydrate and make a starter.
    I ll work on posting links but im gona play my age card until I get I down.
    1/4 tsp is not too much and I use honey instead of must but sugar would work too. Shake the crap out of it and wait several hours
    My misstake is nearly ready for secondary after one week so I know it works. I used d47 so 1118 should have no problem
     
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    Yeah, I know what you mean, LOL:)
     
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    Thanks!, I'm going to look for the white grape juice first, but if I can't find it, I'll go with your idea. Nice to know it will work.
     
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    Went to 5 stores yesterday and can't find that frozen concentrate. So I'll go ahead and try the sugar method. In a quart jar, how much sugar should I put in? I know it was a pint of must(juice), but how much sugar should I add to a pint of water?
    thanks for your help!
     
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    Wouldn't use the must because of sorbate. Hydrate your yeast add it to water with ferm aid and "some" sugar a couple table spoons. How much would depend on volume it will be added to. You could match sg of must if you feel you need
     
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    Right on the must as Sour-Grapes pointed out. I will use a couple of tablespoons and see what happens. Thanks!
     

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