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dkbecker

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I really hope this doesn't come off the wrong way. I just want to reiterate this is not a profit center for me. I might make $10 - $15 a barrel. It takes me about 30 minutes to prep it for shipping and in the past I have gotten stuck with additional shipping charges, people reneging and one person that didn't pay. I appreciate everyone that offered to pay in advance and I'll probably ask for that this year. I also take the barrel to UPS to save the pick up fee.

All I'm asking is for you to pay for the shipping directly. I am not a regular shipper and I don't get any special rates. Below are the barrel specs needed for creating the label. I've given these to a few people and somehow the rate was substantially different from what I got. My address is 14740 Flint Lee Rd, Chantilly, VA 20151 although as I said I drop off the barrels to a local distribution center. Fed ex is too far for me to go.

Logon to www.ups.com>global, it should come up UPS Ground Shipping, hit that, a screen Create a Shipment should come up. Enter my address, if they ask you for a suite use unit E, you can use your email and phone but if you like PM me and I'll give you mine, hit continue and enter your information, it will ask you if it's residential or commercial, respond and hit continue, select My Packaging and use the specs below, it will ask you to select drop off or schedule a pick up, select drop off, the rate will appear. Also there is a box for crated or uncrated and this is where I got stuck in the past. There is no rhyme or reason that I can tell but I always select crated and at times get charged for the extra uncrated price. The barrels are wrapped in shrink wrap with cardboard on the heads of the 40 liter and up barrels so they are technically not crated. Once you get the label you just email it to me.

25 liter 15x15x16 wt 24lbs
30 liter 16x16c17 wt 26lbs
40 liter 18x18x19 wt 32lbs
50 liter 20x20x21 wt 41lbs

To give you some examples of what I get using uncrated 50l to Vermont $72, 40 to Oregon $114, 30 to Oregon $92, 50 to Pittsburg $52, 40 to Pittsburgh $48.
Crates is $14-$18 less but that's the risk I won't take. Also the specs were consistent the past 2 years but they are nominal.

If you get some outrageous numbers PM me and I will walk you through it. Also prices change so it would be best to until the barrels arrive and ready to ship.
Hi Fred,
What is your Email address so that I can send you the label?
Doug
 

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The lower humidity the more wine you share with the angels. There are coatings you can get that slow the process but also slows the micro oxygenation. Neither of which is a bad thing. The surface volume ratio is quite high with small barrels so this would help there. However it doesn't slow the amount of oak given off.

Since you are in Denver you may want to try Vadai barrels. The shipping might make it a better deal.
 

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The lower humidity the more wine you share with the angels. There are coatings you can get that slow the process but also slows the micro oxygenation. Neither of which is a bad thing. The surface volume ratio is quite high with small barrels so this would help there. However it doesn't slow the amount of oak given off.

Since you are in Denver you may want to try Vadai barrels. The shipping might make it a better deal.
Thanks Fred I appreciate it and will look it Vadai!
 

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I live at higher EL than you and pretty much the exact same temp/humidity combination an I have 4 Vadai barrels. Yes they are worth the trouble as long as you realize you need to keep them full year round and need to be cleaned/sanitized on a routine schedule.

I just read about humidity and barrels. Im in Denver and 10% during the winter is common. Would a barrel be worth the trouble in my area?
 

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Just returned from picking up the barrels, although it was mostly my fault it was a trip from hell. First they told me on Tuesday they would probably be ready for pick up yesterday but they would confirm. So 5:00 Wednesday morning I started my 3 hour trek to Norfolk, VA. Sometime while on my way they emailed me saying the sea container was delayed getting to the loading dock door and they were not unloaded. Since it's once a year thing they don't have a full time employee at the warehouse so the person unloading and separating the orders does it after he gets off his regular job which is 5:30. So I spend the day site seeing and shopping. My plans were still to come home that evening but when he arrived the sea container still wasn't at the loading dock and all the doors had containers in front of them. Finally around 7:00 we got the container to the dock and the sky's just opened up. Waited about 30 minutes to wait for it to slow down enough to start unloading. The 40' container was full front to back and bottom to top. Fortunately the small barrels were the first to come off. In order to help them get it unloaded, our barrels were put aside, and I put them on pallets and shrink wrapped them. Then we realized there was only one ground level door that opened to a storage yard that was owner by another company and of course the gate to the yard was locked. So my only choice was to stay the night and pick them up in the morning. Back now and all is good.
 

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Just returned from picking up the barrels, although it was mostly my fault it was a trip from hell. First they told me on Tuesday they would probably be ready for pick up yesterday but they would confirm. So 5:00 Wednesday morning I started my 3 hour trek to Norfolk, VA. Sometime while on my way they emailed me saying the sea container was delayed getting to the loading dock door and they were not unloaded. Since it's once a year thing they don't have a full time employee at the warehouse so the person unloading and separating the orders does it after he gets off his regular job which is 5:30. So I spend the day site seeing and shopping. My plans were still to come home that evening but when he arrived the sea container still wasn't at the loading dock and all the doors had containers in front of them. Finally around 7:00 we got the container to the dock and the sky's just opened up. Waited about 30 minutes to wait for it to slow down enough to start unloading. The 40' container was full front to back and bottom to top. Fortunately the small barrels were the first to come off. In order to help them get it unloaded, our barrels were put aside, and I put them on pallets and shrink wrapped them. Then we realized there was only one ground level door that opened to a storage yard that was owner by another company and of course the gate to the yard was locked. So my only choice was to stay the night and pick them up in the morning. Back now and all is good.
What an ordeal, thanks so much for undertaking this project.
 
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