I found both in the South Hills on CL last year so just keep checking. The C/D seems to be harder to find but they pop up now and then.In Pittsburgh South Hills and interested in seeing if anyone might have a manual crusher/destemmer or a wine press that they're looking to part with? Thanks!
Here is one near Coraopolis. Not a de-stemmer but at least a crusher.I appreciate the input. I just found a winepress yesterday, so now it's just the crusher. Will keep an eye out