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Let the show begin! One ton of Tempranillo with @4Score and @Busabill n Friday, a half ton of Chardonnay wth the same group on Saturday. It looks like the big two ton ferment of Cab Sauv will be next week some time, oh my!
 

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Looks like our order will be ready to pick up on the 15th, or possible 22nd. Up to almost 1000lbs this year. Ended up at .80/lb. plus the gas for a 450 mile drive. As others have mentioned the central valley Pinots aren't available or are sold out but Colavita does have northern coastal Pinot avail. at a little higher cost, 49.00 a lug I think. I'll probably throw in 3 lugs for Lori's personal stash. Bottled 42 gallons sunday in less than 3 hours with just 2 of us. Carboys get a few weeks off to rest up for their 2017 fill ups. We're doing a Cab with a splash of Merlot and for the first time a Zin blend 50% zin, 25% merlot and 25% cab field blend.
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We're doing a Cab with a splash of Merlot and for the first time a Zin blend 50% zin, 25% merlot and 25% cab field blend.
Mike


Question from the unindoctrinated... a three grape field bled? Posts I've seen indicate 2 is fine, but more than that is trouble. Always thought it was because you'd want to do different trial blends before settling in on what tastes best. But, I'm a noob.
 

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About half of my 2016 wine will end up as a blend of Zin, Cab, Syrah and Petite Sirah.
 

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@jgmann67 - I found an interesting list that had a number of "classic" blend percentages of Burgandy and Claret style wines. Of course I can't find the site now that I want to re-visit it. The Zin, Cab & Merlot combo came up with percentages all over the place and this 50-25-25 just sounded right to me. I don't think I'm skilled enough yet to know how well this will work out but I just don't see how this combo can come out bad. I do think you're right that ideally making all separately and blending would be the best but limited space time and experience are really the reasons for going this way this year.
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Great Minds think alike! My 2013 Tres Rojo's Blend was exactly that ratio and turned out very, very nice. Won a few medals as well with it.

The Zin, Cab & Merlot combo came up with percentages all over the place and this 50-25-25 just sounded right to me. I don't think I'm skilled enough yet to know how well this will work out but I just don't see how this combo can come out bad.

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Cool, I didn't really have any doubts but that lends a bit of confidence. Now all I gotta do is not screw it up!
Thanks, Mike
 
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Question from the unindoctrinated... a three grape field bled? Posts I've seen indicate 2 is fine, but more than that is trouble. Always thought it was because you'd want to do different trial blends before settling in on what tastes best. But, I'm a noob.

BTW, that Melot of mine that you've tried from Chilean grapes was 70% Merlot, 15% Cab Sauv and 15% Malbec. I'll bring another bottle if you remind me next time I visit. I just think I overdid the Tannin Extra Riche in that one, hoping time will fix that.
 

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BTW, that Melot of mine that you've tried from Chilean grapes was 70% Merlot, 15% Cab Sauv and 15% Malbec. I'll bring another bottle if you remind me next time I visit. I just think I overdid the Tannin Extra Riche in that one, hoping time will fix that.


For me it just begs the question - should I just field blend the Cab and Merlot up front, then add the PV to taste after a year aging.
 

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Pics, we want some pics! :r

It's 5:40am and the day is beginning. I need to check on the crew that is harvesting Petite Sirah in the community, then it's off to get one ton of Tempranillo with @4Score and @BusaBill Let the fun begin!
 

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And there's the man with the superhuman palate! (How could I forget that YouTube tasting notes video). The ace up your sleeve. Great pics!


You are right! @4Score's super human son is meeting me at 7am tomorrow to go get 1,100 pounds of Chardonnay. Back to back wine making days in 110 degree weather, arg.
 

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@NorCal did you toss in a few fork-fulls of whole cluster with that Tempranillo? I don't have the option with frozen must, but we've done it a few times with fresh Amador fruit and had good results, additional spice, no need to fear green stems at low rates. Looks like you guys are having fun!
 
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