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all i know is,,,, I filter through spun polypropylene whole house filters, I never use paper filters, I filter at every stage, and with but 1 time that I got in a hurry to bottle , I have never but that once ever had any fall out, and will continue to do so, but there are more ways than there are wines,,,
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I wanted to post that we found a cheaper place for you buy a inline filter setup for the Allinonewinepump for $27.72 - shipping not included.
Includes cannister, wrench, bracket ,1 and 5 micron filters - check it out - just posted it =
 

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ZebraB I got my vacuum pump at harbor freight. The link below got me started

 

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ZebraB I got my vacuum pump at harbor freight. The link below got me started
That is a very basic setup - He is missing alot of the other components - Vacuum regulator (so you do not go the allowed amount of vacuum safely)- Overflow jar (to protect the pump from damage) - oil fumes created from the pump that is designed for outdoors only - a inline vacuum valve(to turn off the vacuum quickly).

I do sell alot of accessories for the DIY -
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I like that you are searching for deals but $12.01 shipping (cheapest) on a $20.56 dollar order from Michigan to Minnesota is a bit much.
 

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I like that you are searching for deals but $12.01 shipping (cheapest) on a $20.56 dollar order from Michigan to Minnesota is a bit much.
I decided to check for myself and purchase everything from both sites - I put the images below =
If ANYONE can find a better place to purchase from - please contact me and I will do my homework - like check inventory and how often they restock .

Filterfast =
47.79 products
7.95 shipping
5.46 taxes
total = 60.20

Servapure =
27.72 products
10.35 shipping
0 taxes
total = 38.07

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My question is not quite on point, but I cannot find a thread that addresses it. So here goes. I have always filtered (Buon Vino) and bottled on the same day. Recently I heard from a small-scale commercial winemaker (30-33K bottles a year) it is best to wait a day or two between filtering and bottling. I failed to ask for rationale. Any thoughts one way or the other?
.. If a factory has the capacity it will ALWAYS bottle the commercially sterile wine/ juice/ milk/ shelf stable food/ etc immediately after the treatment that preserves it. Yes there is a surge tank between these two operations for the purpose of having a smoothly running filler. Yes if an adjustment to SO2 or adding flavor concentrates or blending varieties it may make sense to hold the wine but the risk is lower if these process steps are finished before sterile filtering. Holding in a tank is a risk and we work to minimize risk. If a commercial winery is small and has to hire a nitrogen bottling line on a trailer it will have filtered then bottled the wine before it leaves the trailer.
.. Commercial bottle lines run faster than sterile filters therefore it is not unusual to have one team member run a sterile process all night to fill a surge tank to run the bottle filler. The flux on filters decreases the longer they run therefore a larger surge provides safety factor on the filling line.
.. A small winery as with two full time production staff will operate better by treating filtration as a separate operation, adjust the sulphite when batch size is known, blending and take a break at end of day. Then sanitize and run bottling the next day. DRY Wine is a preservative system therefore we can lock the doors and safely ignore the over night risk.
.. A winery which is operating with a four bottle hand filler is slow enough that it can start and stop filling without an issue.
.. We have nominal filters which are not sterile, with a nominal filter we can get crystal clarity so if a wine is dry this cheaper equipment setup works. An absolute filter means a sharp cut off that can remove bacteria, once it is commercially sterile (for example we stop at 10% alcohol with residual sugar) we keep clean.
.. @Ct Winemaker ,, My Buon Vino number one pads are not an absolute cut off filters. They will pull most yeast and bacteria out but if the volume were a 10K gallon tank I would be betting there was still some contamination in the filtrate,,, risk if I back sweeten.
. . . and with this back to the original post
 

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