Correcting 'flowers' in wine

Winemaking Talk - Winemaking Forum

Help Support Winemaking Talk - Winemaking Forum:

Jal5

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 27, 2017
Messages
469
Reaction score
236
Update- glad to report that no more film in any of the bottles or bulk aging carboys. We were away for two months so I was a little bit worried what I would find when we got home. It will age a little longer before bottling since we don’t need the carboys right now.

next month on to spring grapes!
Joe
 

hounddawg

Dawg
Joined
Oct 23, 2014
Messages
3,225
Reaction score
2,782
Location
very N.E. Arkansas in the instep of MO, BOOTHILL,,
hum, i found this thread, i have 24 gallons finished apple wine, was fermented all together, then racked into 4#-6 gallon carboys, they are 1 year bulked and getting ready to back sweeten and bottle, I've made country wines longer then I have been on here, about a month ago I went in to check airlocks and 1 has flowers, they were all made together, bunged the same time racked same time, even the k-meta solution was from the same at the same time, yet, I am trying to find out why and what to do about, I have never had wine flowers before, this is after i drew out some samples then i refilled it, so only the neck was and is the airspace, i lowered the level for better pictures,, any ideals, i wish to never have a repeat, ideals needed and wanted,,,
Dawg
DawgIMG_0338.JPGforIMG_0337.JPG
 

winemaker81

wine dabbler
WMT Supporter
Joined
Nov 5, 2006
Messages
1,753
Reaction score
2,752
Location
Raleigh, NC, USA
I’m curious, mine occurred in all the carboys where I used nutrients and bentonite. I’m not saying there’s a correlation, more so asking if that could be a contributing factor? Also, only in the ones that are from grapes. My mead and cranberry don’t have it. No bad smells or tastes either. Here’s a few other pictures. This was when I was tasting and before cleaning and adding to top off...
That looks like grape solids. I've had stuff like that adhere to the top of the carboy numerous times, typically early in the process. I simply racked the wine, cleaned the carboy well, and refilled. I can't recall having off-tastes or smells when it occurred, so I assumed it was light stuff that floated instead of sinking.

@hounddawg, what does the wine smell and taste like?
 

hounddawg

Dawg
Joined
Oct 23, 2014
Messages
3,225
Reaction score
2,782
Location
very N.E. Arkansas in the instep of MO, BOOTHILL,,
That looks like grape solids. I've had stuff like that adhere to the top of the carboy numerous times, typically early in the process. I simply racked the wine, cleaned the carboy well, and refilled. I can't recall having off-tastes or smells when it occurred, so I assumed it was light stuff that floated instead of sinking.

@hounddawg, what does the wine smell and taste like?
it smells like apple, but taste of alcohol, since it has not been back sweetened yet
Dawg
 

winemaker81

wine dabbler
WMT Supporter
Joined
Nov 5, 2006
Messages
1,753
Reaction score
2,752
Location
Raleigh, NC, USA
funny, you do something for years, one thing goes awry and you're a baby duck in a new pond,
I know exactly how you feel -- my H2S episode last fall was the first time I personally encountered it.

I practiced Soo Bahk Do, a Korean martial art, for quite a few years. The art has no black belt -- in Soo Bahk Do, the belt is midnight blue, which symbolizes that everyone will always have more to learn, and will never fully master everything there is to know. This certainly applies to winemaking!
 

Jal5

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 27, 2017
Messages
469
Reaction score
236
I would clean that stuff off, spray some kmeta in there and proceed. As long as it tastes and smells good I don't think it is flowers. I had it when I used crushed campden tabs during the last processing the fermentation. This current 6 g I am making uses only the kmeta powder so I will report if there is a difference or not in the future.
 

Latest posts

Top