Barrel thoughts

Discussion in 'Barrels & Oaking' started by pgentile, Sep 13, 2018.

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  1. Oct 24, 2018 #81

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    Na I’m glad I did it. Was necessary. The solid bung popped off on the 1st ring. I replaced with an airlocked bung with a tiny bit of water. Proceeded to tighten all the rings up to even 1/2” without issue. But leaks were substantial. I wasn’t even counting stains as leaks
     
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    Just wondering how this went and if you're happy with the results. I'm starting a similar process today with similar sized barrels. The variances are: 6.1 gal Hungarian oak barrels with first wine being a Negroamaro, second will be a Pinot Noir, third will be a Zinfandel and fourth will be a Merlot.
     
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    So far the sauv blanc is out of the barrel two weeks, sightly over oaked, but after 6 months or so hoping it fades a bit. Pinotage is in the barrel now, will taste in another few weeks.
     
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    Just tasted my Syrah in the 25l barrel i got from Fred. Been 6 weeks and still not too oaky, I might stretch it to 9 weeks then filter/bottle and jump right into the Petit Syrah for around 12 weeks. Again if you gonna bottle age don't worry about over oaking. That mixed black I brought to our get together was so over oaked last fall it was almost undrinkable. After 9 month in the bottle you couldn't taste any oak. I was gonna take the Syrah out earlier but forgot to add Tannin Riche so I added it and they say wait three weeks.
     
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    The mixed black was very nice, probably will be on my list for next year. Beside the Petit Syrah what else do you have to go in.
     
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    I would be very careful with the smaller barrel. They have a tendency to over oak very fast. In the future, I would try using oak alternatives to add the kiss of oak with out overly powerful oak.
    Also, make sure that the water you are using does not contain chlorine. This can give birth to TCA.
    Any questions about oak, feel free to ask. I work for a cooperage and have years of wine making experience.
    Good luck.
     
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    What cooperage do you work for, if you don't mind me asking???
     
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    I still haven't seen mixed black grapes offered anywhere here in Philly or SJ.

    Think I got the sauv blanc just right, slightly over oaked. In six months it shouldn't be, hopefully.

    I have Pinotage in the barrel now will taste in another 4 weeks or so.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    I work for Canton Cooperage. We are based out of Kentucky and are part of the Chene & Cie group.
     
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    Thanks for the info and warnings!!
     
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